# 2018 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 5, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026 "2017-10-05T15:02:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/21 "2017-10-05T20:45:54Z")
For those saying Zombies, why? A few great songs, no long lasting band time making hits and albums, no major innovations. So why do you say they should be in? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/22 "2017-10-05T21:21:24Z")
For me, “Odessey and Oracle” is one of my favorite albums of all time. For that album alone, I would put the Zombies in. (Heck, the first dance at our wedding was “This Will Be Our Year” from that album.) ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/23 "2017-10-05T21:42:37Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > That guitar solo is clearly rock, and note the Peter-Townsend-like windmill at 1:48. I wonder if a young Townshend saw that film and copped the move from her? ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/24 "2017-10-05T21:52:39Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > I wonder if a young Townshend saw that film and copped the move from her? This is a known, famous story told by Pete: he went to see the Stones at the Marquis I think. He idolized Keith. While the curtain was coming up, Keith was warming up, for including a windmill move, completely without thought. Pete thought it looked badass and started doing it for show, thinking he was copping Keith’s move. Eventually it became part of his sound because it has a unique sound for all the reasons you’d imagine, coming up from below up the neck like that. He later went up to Keith and apologized for copping the move and Keith looked at him like he had three heads. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/25 "2017-10-05T22:02:14Z")
You’re first eligible 25 years after you put out your first major release. Twenty-five years ago was 1992. That list does not scream 1992. (Radiohead and Rage Against the Machine are 92ers.) Shut it down. It’s over. Start another institution for whatever Gen Xers call music. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/26 "2017-10-05T22:44:24Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Dire Straights, OTOH, should be a lock, and Mark Knopfler should also be inducted as a solo artist. I don’t know enough of Knopfler’s solo work, but with Dire Straits he was an absolute genius. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/27 "2017-10-05T23:46:17Z")
The Moodies really had better make it this time. Over the last few months I’ve really gotten back into them in a big way. Yes, there are rather ordinary cuts on pretty much any album post-_Days of Future Passed_, but when they hit one out it’s long gone. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/28 "2017-10-05T23:47:53Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Here’s my vote: > > . Living up (or down, rather) to your user handle, eh? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/29 "2017-10-06T00:23:54Z")
I vote for Pat Benatar! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/30 "2017-10-06T00:33:45Z")
If Dire Straits and Sister Rosetta get in I’ll be a happy man. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/31 "2017-10-06T00:33:48Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Seriously? Judas Priest is one of the most influential bands ever. You know how, in just about every field, there’s the guy who invents something, and then another guy who comes along and perfects that thing and sets the standard? In the case of heavy metal, those two would be Black Sabbath and Judas Priest. JP established the “twin lead guitar attack” that has become _de rigeur_ in most varieties of metal. Rob Halford is called “The Metal God” for a reason: he set the standard for metal vocalists. And don’t forget that JP also essentially invented the “look” of heavy metal, with all the black leather and spikes. Not that there’s anything wrong with that… ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/32 "2017-10-06T00:47:27Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > You’re first eligible 25 years after you put out your first major release. Twenty-five years ago was 1992. That list does not scream 1992. (Radiohead and Rage Against the Machine are 92ers.) > > Shut it down. It’s over. Start another institution for whatever Gen Xers call music. 😃 It’s interesting to think why this doesn’t happen. There would have to be something else to replace it with, and there never has been, based on fraying affiliations and genrefication. Will the new name be post-racial? Also it would have to kick rock and roll off and say it’s over. Talk about upsetting the Status Quo. Musicians are doing the same thing they did by 1962, anyway. Bob Dylan, Kurt Vile, it’s the same thing still. There is no rupture in the art so why should there be a change in the name? No, just retire the HOF, call it history and say let’s move forward into modern music. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/33 "2017-10-06T01:22:20Z")
> [@Mixolydian](#): > > IMHO (in order of necessity), > > The Meters > J. Geils Band > Sister Rosetta Tharpe > Link Wray > The Zombies > > The rest can wait. The whole thing’s a joke, but if Bon Jovi gets in this year ahead of the bands I mentioned, that’ll just confirm it. That’ll be kinda like when I gave up on the Oscars forever when Tom Hanks won for _Forrest Gump_. > [@astorian](#): > > The Moody Blues should have been inducted ages ago. They’re the biggest no brainers on this list. Yes. And you can no longer claim it’s stylistic-- that they’re not “rock” enough if you are going to start nominating the Eurythmics-- who I like, don’t get me wrong, but they were really that sort of fence-straddling punk-for-non-punks/new wave, that was really sideways from straight-up rock. > [@drad\_dog](#): > > No, just retire the HOF, call it history and say let’s move forward into modern music. You might be right. “Rock ‘n’ Roll,” per se, isn’t really being made anymore. BTW: Is there a rule about something like length of time since release of first album, before a performer or band can be nominated? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/34 "2017-10-06T02:11:39Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > BTW: Is there a rule about something like length of time since release of first album, before a performer or band can be nominated? Yes. > [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > You’re first eligible 25 years after you put out your first major release. [Yeah, I’ve done it too.] ---
**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/35 "2017-10-06T03:04:30Z")
For reference, some acts who are not in the hall: Nick Drake Nick Cave Television Roxy Music Brian Eno Kate Bush The Cure The Smiths Joy Division So, if you insist on taking the thing seriously, just be aware… ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/36 "2017-10-06T03:16:56Z")
I remember Link Wray. In 1958, he made it to number 16 with “Rawhide”, a guitar solo, and never got that high again on the charts. In 1958, Cincinnati Reds catcher Edgar Bailey hit 28 home runs, ranking 16th in the majors, and he never hit that many again . I do not consider either of them to be Hall of Fame candidates. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/37 "2017-10-06T10:22:37Z")
> [@jtur88](#): > > I remember Link Wray. In 1958, he made it to number 16 with “Rawhide”, a guitar solo, and never got that high again on the charts. In 1958, Cincinnati Reds catcher Edgar Bailey hit 28 home runs, ranking 16th in the majors, and he never hit that many again . > > I do not consider either of them to be Hall of Fame candidates. Dude, you’re walking past Link Wray’s **Rumble** , so pivotal to the life of so many guitar players, especially British kids taking up guitar, like Jimmy Page. He did something more like pitch a no hitter in a pivotal World Series game - his career overall may not be Hall material, but they need to display the last ball pitched or something. Dire Straits Eurythmics / Judas Priest (both hugely influential, to very different populations. Annie’s image to women in music was as influential as Priest’s on metal) Rage Radiohead Sister Rosetta ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/38 "2017-10-06T10:42:29Z")
WordMan, are you referring to Rage against the Machine? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/39 "2017-10-06T12:19:11Z")
Bon Jovi Radiohead LL Cool J Rage Against the Machine Nina Simone Bon Jovi is one of the best selling, longest lasting bands in the spotlight. Radiohead and Rage Against the Machine were major innovators in their genres LL Cool J has more longevity in the spotlight than any other rapper. He started out when Run DMC was big and he’s still big today ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026/40 "2017-10-06T12:24:41Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > WordMan, are you referring to Rage against the Machine? Yes. The only folks to get out of Nu Metal with their dignity intact. Super influential on a number of levels. Love the music. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/798026.md?page=3)