# 2019 Israeli election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 17, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395 "2019-09-17T19:42:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/21 "2019-09-26T14:20:18Z")
Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Shinna\_Minna\_Ma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@Shinna\_Minna\_Ma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shinna_Minna_Ma)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/22 "2019-10-02T08:59:01Z")
Unless Bibi and Gantz come to their senses and form some kind of unity government, I can see Israel going to yet another election. I’m not even sure I’ll vote again. I don’t like either one, and Bibi is facing possible criminal indictments in the very near future. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/23 "2019-10-02T09:45:50Z")
> [@Shinna\_Minna\_Ma](#): > > Unless Bibi and Gantz come to their senses and form some kind of unity government, I can see Israel going to yet another election. I’m not even sure I’ll vote again. I don’t like either one, and Bibi is facing possible criminal indictments in the very near future. We’ll see what happens when Rubin gives the mandate to Gantz and it’s the Likud’s turn to blink. Bibi may want another election, but I don’t think his party does. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/24 "2019-10-02T10:08:57Z")
Plus, I want to see if any transcriptions of embarrassing calls between Bibi and Trump pop up. That would be _awesome_. ---
**Author:** ![RickG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rickg/32/5174_2.png) [@RickG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickG)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/25 "2019-10-02T19:45:11Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Plus, I want to see if any transcriptions of embarrassing calls between Bibi and Trump pop up. That would be _awesome_. Oh my, YES. I’d drink a very large glass of _arak_ in celebration. May _Eretz Yisrael_ have a sweet and largely Bibi-free 5780. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/26 "2019-10-03T12:15:47Z")
Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/27 "2019-10-03T12:30:11Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K. Care to elaborate (I’m assuming that’s the knesset)? ---
**Author:** ![Fentoine\_Lum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b77776/32.png) [@Fentoine\_Lum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fentoine_Lum)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/28 "2019-10-07T17:58:48Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Looks like Netanyahu will get to build a coalition after all. Or at least, try – Israeli media is reporting that the president picked him to build a government, but we will see if he can. Blue White pledged that they won’t join a government led by Netanyahu, and Israel Beitanu has said they won’t joint with the religious right. If both of those pledges hold true (and we all know what politician pledges are worth), then I don’t see how Netanyahu has a better shot success than he did last time. The apartheid state of Israel’s dancing and feckless footwork is a delight to hear of. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/29 "2019-10-09T02:20:07Z")
So [from a few days back](https://www.jns.org/last-ditch-netanyahu-lieberman-meeting-ends-with-no-breakthrough/) … > [@](#): > > Lieberman emphasized that “if there is no breakthrough between the Likud and Blue and White by Yom Kippur [Wednesday, Oct. 9], Yisrael Beiteinu will make its own offer to both of the factions. At any rate, after Yom Kippur, we will enter any effort to form a government in high gear.” > > He added that “even if a third election is held, the situation on the political map will not significantly change, and that is why we need to … leave personal considerations and egos aside.” Yom Tov y’all. What sort of offer will he be making you think? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/30 "2019-10-10T04:26:30Z")
> **[Liberman plan: Netanyahu first, but without bloc](https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/avigdor-liberman-reveals-his-plans-for-a-unity-government-604117)** > > The plan calls for both Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Blue and White leader Benny Gantz to make compromises in order to enable a national unity government So he’d have it be the three parties with no Arab or ultra religious parties. Rotate Bibi and Benny with Bibi first to step down when indicted. Likely? ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/31 "2019-10-10T05:54:45Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > So he’d have it be the three parties with no Arab or ultra religious parties. Rotate Bibi and Benny with Bibi first to step down when indicted. > Likely? This would form a stable government. This would have the support of the majority of Israelis voters. This is clearly what is best for the country. This is the only logical solution. Therefore, it simply will not happen. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/32 "2019-10-10T06:48:53Z")
Also, nobody trusts Bibi to actually step down. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/33 "2019-11-22T04:37:53Z")
In the continuing saga of Israel trying to [form a government](http://https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2019-11-20/israel-heads-toward-unprecedented-3rd-election-within-a-year): - Netanyahu tried, and failed, to get the votes to form a government. - Gantz, leader of the Blue and White party got his shot. Wednesday he announced that he had failed just before the deadline. - We are now in a 21 day window for anybody who can scrape up the votes to try and form a government. If that fails there will be another election in March. To throw an extra wrinkle in the mix, [Netanyahu was indicted](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/guid/B861269C-0C80-11EA-B29F-01A5A32E68D3) for fraud, breach of trust, and accepting bribes today. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/34 "2019-12-11T22:52:37Z")
[Round 3 - FIGHT!](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/israel-heading-for-third-election-in-less-than-a-year-after-politicians-fail-to-form-government/2019/12/11/d9d4818a-1ac6-11ea-977a-15a6710ed6da_story.html) ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/35 "2019-12-12T02:56:43Z")
The right-wing would have a better chance without Bibi. But he needs to win to keep out of jail and so is building a cult of personality. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/36 "2019-12-12T09:50:58Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > The right-wing would have a better chance without Bibi. But he needs to win to keep out of jail and so is building a cult of personality. Yes, obviously, but the right probably won’t get rid of him. He’s bolstered by an institutional culture of loyalty to the leader, no matter what. Consider, for instance, that in its 70 years of existence, the Likud has had exactly four party leaders, all of whom served until they resigned. And honestly, it’s been working for them - Labour, in comparison, has had 13 party leaders in the same period of time, in which it has withered away from total domination to near-irrelevance. The Likud does not challenge its leaders, period. And yeah, he definitely has a cult of personality, not dissimilar to that of his American counterpart (“triggering the libs” is a thing here too, unfortunately, albeit not in so many words). Bibi is basically Trump’s self-aggrandizement mixed with Nixon’s intelligence, paranoia and resentment, stuffed into JFK’s composure and speaking ability. God help you if you ever elect a president like him. ---
**Author:** ![Shinna\_Minna\_Ma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@Shinna\_Minna\_Ma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shinna_Minna_Ma)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/37 "2019-12-12T19:51:11Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > [Round 3 - FIGHT!](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/israel-heading-for-third-election-in-less-than-a-year-after-politicians-fail-to-form-government/2019/12/11/d9d4818a-1ac6-11ea-977a-15a6710ed6da_story.html) I’m not sure that I’m going to vote this round. I’m terribly angry that we’ve gone thru 2 elections and have made no progress whatsoever. Not only that, I’m already getting those damned text messages about voting. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/38 "2019-12-12T20:03:14Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Consider, for instance, that in its 70 years of existence, the Likud has had exactly four party leaders, all of whom served until they resigned. And honestly, it’s been working for them - Labour, in comparison, has had 13 party leaders in the same period of time, in which it has withered away from total domination to near-irrelevance. I would guess that’s backwards. After Begin (who had a very long tenure for other reasons, i.e. youth and stature as founder) the Likud hasn’t had to turn over their leaders because they’ve been relatively successful. The Labor Party has been steadily declining over the years, and that decline itself would naturally cause more turnover in the leadership role. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/39 "2019-12-12T20:34:43Z")
> [@Shinna\_Minna\_Ma](#): > > I’m not sure that I’m going to vote this round. I’m terribly angry that we’ve gone thru 2 elections and have made no progress whatsoever. Not only that, I’m already getting those damned text messages about voting. Who did you vote for last round, and where/why are you thinking of changing your vote? I’m genuinely curious. Holding election round three seems to fall under the oft [misattributed](http://www.news.hypercrit.net/2012/11/13/einstein-on-insanity/) definition of insanity. I see no reason that that anyone would change their vote. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395/40 "2019-12-12T21:52:00Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > I would guess that’s backwards. After Begin (who had a very long tenure for other reasons, i.e. youth and stature as founder) the Likud hasn’t had to turn over their leaders because they’ve been relatively successful. The Labor Party has been steadily declining over the years, and that decline itself would naturally cause more turnover in the leadership role. Maybe, but that doesn’t change the fact that I’ve seen plenty of Likudniks - including senior party members - say, literally, “The Likud does not depose its leader. We’re not Labour.” > [@Shinna\_Minna\_Ma](#): > > I’m not sure that I’m going to vote this round. I’m terribly angry that we’ve gone thru 2 elections and have made no progress whatsoever. Not only that, I’m already getting those damned text messages about voting. Who’ve you been getting? First two rounds, I mostly got from Labour leftward ( probably because of where I live), but this time I haven’t gotten any yet. I don’t think that what’s left of the left has started revving its machinery yet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2019-israeli-election/840395.md?page=3)