# 2020 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominations **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 15, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811 "2019-10-15T18:56:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/1 "2019-10-15T18:56:59Z")
The 2020 RnR HoF nominations are in: [Whitney Houston, Pat Benatar, Soundgarden among first-time Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/whitney-houston-pat-benatar-soundgarden-among-firsttime-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees-for-2020-142002957.html) [ul] [li]Pat Benatar[/li][li]Dave Matthews Band[/li][li]Depeche Mode[/li][li]The Doobie Brothers[/li][li]Whitney Houston[/li][li]Judas Priest[/li][li]Kraftwerk[/li][li]MC5[/li][li]Motörhead[/li][li]Nine Inch Nails[/li][li]The Notorious B.I.G.[/li][li]Rufus featuring Chaka Khan[/li][li]Todd Rundgren[/li][li]Soundgarden[/li][li]T. Rex[/li][li]Thin Lizzy[/li][/ul] Of these, I think Pat Benatar, The Doobie Brothers, and Todd Rundgren would be my top picks, but a strong case can be made for several of the others (MC5, Kraftwerk, T. Rex), IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/2 "2019-10-15T18:58:26Z")
Whitney Houston. Seriously?? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/3 "2019-10-15T19:02:20Z")
Judas Priest MC5 Motörhead T. Rex Thin Lizzy Even though Lemmy said he didn’t care to join. He sarcastically quipped that the most prominent display there was the gift shop. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/4 "2019-10-15T19:23:12Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Thin Lizzy I like them, even owned a few of their albums, but HoF? I can’t see it. How influential or groundbreaking were they? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/5 "2019-10-15T19:33:41Z")
How much of The Hall has Weird Al parodied? ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/6 "2019-10-15T19:36:14Z")
Not a very strong list. It would not be a major oversight if none got in. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/7 "2019-10-15T19:49:39Z")
Oops, I messed up. Will try again… ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/8 "2019-10-15T19:55:45Z")
Looks like the Mortorhead nomination is specifically for the Fast Eddie/Philthy lineup. (That sentence makes sense to Motorhead fans.) “Following the departure of Eddie Clarke in 1982, after six years of service, Motorhead recruited Brian Robertson before eventually landing Phil Campbell in 1984. Campbell remained Motorhead’s guitarist until the death of Lemmy Kilmister in 2015, giving Campbell a 31-year career with the band and cementing him as Motorhead’s second-most longstanding member after Lemmy. Campbell performed on Motorhead classics such as “Killed by Death,” “Orgasmatron” and “Hellraiser,” with the guitarist’s accolades including a Grammy Award for his performance on “Whiplash.” Mikkey Dee also won the Grammy for “Whiplash,” and as the drummer for Motorhead since 1992, Dee is the third-most longstanding member of Motorhead’s history, having served 23 years behind the kit.” > **[Phil Campbell + Mikkey Dee Snubbed From Motorhead's Rock and Roll Hall of...](https://loudwire.com/phil-campbell-mikkey-dee-snubbed-motorhead-rock-hall-nomination/)** > > What were they thinking? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/9 "2019-10-15T19:57:43Z")
Can’t edit: Interestingly, Brian Robertson was known at the time for his work with Thin Lizzy. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/10 "2019-10-15T20:03:25Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Not a very strong list. It would not be a major oversight if none got in. I think it’s theoretically possible for none to get in (other than any other inductees named by special committees) – as I understand the rules, the top five vote-getters in the Performers category (which is what this annual nomination list represents) are inducted, but there also appears to be a rule that those performers _also_ have to be named on at least 50% of the ballots. So, if no one hit that 50% threshhold, no one would be inducted. The list contains several bands who have been nominated repeatedly, and who are regularly cited as being important and influential, even if they never made much of an impact on the US charts, like Kraftwerk and MC5; I suppose that those groups have a better chance to get in when the rest of the nomination list seems to consist of acts that belong in the Hall of Very Good. Don’t get me wrong, I love Pat Benatar, Depeche Mode, and Todd Rundgren, and while I was never much of a Motorhead fan, I think Lemmy was an extremely interesting dude - but I’m not sure that any of them should be in the Hall (though I could make a case for the Doobie Brothers). But…Dave Matthews Band? ---
**Author:** ![Yodalicious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yodalicious/32/8195_2.png) [@Yodalicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yodalicious)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/11 "2019-10-15T20:34:31Z")
Whitney and Biggie are definites. Hopefully Pat Benatar. Soundgarden will get the sympathy vote. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Rufus/Chaka Khan get in. All the others are maybes, but Priest deserves to get in. Maybe they’ll get the fan vote. Still no “Weird” Al… 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/12 "2019-10-15T22:03:09Z")
I had to look up who MC5 was. I’m sure Pat Benetar and Doobie Brothers are shoe-ins. It so happens I saw them both at the same concert! Rocklahoma, on Sep. 6th, 1980! Sammy Hagar, Pat Benetar, Van Halen and The Doobie Brothers! It was glorious 1980s fun. > **[40 Years Ago: Van Halen Conquers ROKLAHOMA!](https://www.vhnd.com/2014/09/06/van-halen-roklahoma-1980/)** > > Exclusive photos of Van Halen, with Hagar opening at ROKLAHOMA 1980, including Ed playing a LES PAUL. Killer! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/13 "2019-10-15T22:05:14Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > I like them, even owned a few of their albums, but HoF? I can’t see it. How influential or groundbreaking were they? They were pioneers of the twin lead guitar thing. Pretty much any metal band followed suit. Shit, I’d put Thin Lizzy in there just for Cowboy Song. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/14 "2019-10-15T22:08:16Z")
NiN is the only one that really grabs me. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/15 "2019-10-15T22:21:03Z")
Why isn’t **Jethro Tull** on the list? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/16 "2019-10-15T22:41:50Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Why isn’t **Jethro Tull** on the list? As far as I can tell, Tull has never even made it to the list of nominees. There had traditionally been a perception (which I held) that the Hall had a bias against progressive rock bands, and that Jann Wenner’s personal dislike for prog rock was a factor in that. But, in the past decade, we’ve seen Yes, Rush, Genesis, Electric Light Orchestra, and the Moody Blues make it in, so I think that the anti-prog perception isn’t valid any more. Honestly, I’m not sure why Tull hasn’t even gotten a nomination. They were successful and reasonably popular for a long time, which is _typically_ enough to at least get nominated once. One factor that is definitely weighed in the evaluation of performers for induction into the Hall is their enduring influence on later musicians (which is why you see some influential bands in there that weren’t around for very long at all); I don’t know if Tull was seen as being particularly influential (maybe they were; I like Tull, own several albums, but I’m not hugely knowledgeable on them). ---
**Author:** ![Alpha\_Twit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alpha_twit/32/265_2.png) [@Alpha\_Twit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpha_Twit)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/17 "2019-10-15T23:02:26Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Not a very strong list. It would not be a major oversight if none got in. I could maybe make a case for an oversight if the Doobie Brothers fail. Beyond that, I concur. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/18 "2019-10-16T00:58:16Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Why isn’t **Jethro Tull** on the list? With a nod to post #16, probably for the same reason why King Crimson isn’t on it either. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/19 "2019-10-16T01:19:21Z")
is it me or is their lists finally leaving the 60’s and 70’s i mean only 4 or 5 are before 1980…and of those the 80s were when they became popular … i think lemmys feelings on the subject is why they waited so long for motorhead … ---
**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811/20 "2019-10-16T01:50:36Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > As far as I can tell, Tull has never even made it to the list of nominees. There had traditionally been a perception (which I held) that the Hall had a bias against progressive rock bands, and that Jann Wenner’s personal dislike for prog rock was a factor in that. But, in the past decade, we’ve seen Yes, Rush, Genesis, Electric Light Orchestra, and the Moody Blues make it in, so I think that the anti-prog perception isn’t valid any more. > > Honestly, I’m not sure why Tull hasn’t even gotten a nomination. They were successful and reasonably popular for a long time, which is _typically_ enough to at least get nominated once. One factor that is definitely weighed in the evaluation of performers for induction into the Hall is their enduring influence on later musicians (which is why you see some influential bands in there that weren’t around for very long at all); I don’t know if Tull was seen as being particularly influential (maybe they were; I like Tull, own several albums, but I’m not hugely knowledgeable on them). Tull made the nomination list last year. In last year’s RnR Hall nominees thread, there were a few comments on who besides Ian Anderson would get inducted. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations/841811.md?page=2)