# 2020 Ticket Predictions

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [May 15, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998 "2019-05-15T13:02:43Z")
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### Author: ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/1 "2019-05-15T13:02:43Z")

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Time to commit!

Here’s mine:

Republicans: Trump & Nikki Haley. Mike is no longer needed.

Democrats: Biden & Harris.

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### Author: ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/2 "2019-05-15T13:07:30Z")

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Trump changing his VP would be too much like admitting he made a mistake. Not going to happen.

On the Democratic side, Biden is the safest bet, though I think he’s still under a 50% chance against the field. And he’ll likely choose a youngish woman. But I don’t think it’ll be Harris, nor any of the other folks running for the top seat.

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#### Post date: [May 15, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/3 "2019-05-15T13:24:28Z")

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I don’t have a prediction, but Biden/Harris seems pretty good to me. I don’t know much about her other than her performance exposing Barr as a stammering fool, which was impressive.

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#### Post date: [May 15, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/4 "2019-05-15T14:57:21Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Trump changing his VP would be too much like admitting he made a mistake. Not going to happen. .

Trump has run through so, so many,many others without having an iota of anything resembling “too much like admitting he made a mistake”, what makes you think Mikey P would be any different?

“Mike has done a great job for us, just terrific. We’re so grateful. Nikki’s gonna be fantastic, she’ a real superstar, probably the best Vice President ever. Just wait and see.”

Done deal.

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#### Post date: [May 15, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/5 "2019-05-15T17:33:26Z")

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Trump probably thinks he does not need Pence to get the religious vote so I can see him dumping Pence.

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#### Post date: [May 15, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/6 "2019-05-15T17:40:33Z")

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He could put Jane Fonda on the ticket with him and not lose his base. He has a hold on his cult that would be the envy of Jim Jones.

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### Author: ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/7 "2019-05-15T17:46:55Z")

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Seems FDR was the last president to have different VPs when running for re-election and he had 3 VPs. Garner , Wallace and Truman.

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#### Post date: [May 15, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/8 "2019-05-15T19:15:36Z")

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Dems: Biden & Warren

Pubs: Donald & Ivakna (For real.) Add the sexy daughter and “family values” and that’s all their fans need.

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#### Post date: [May 15, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/9 "2019-05-15T19:46:48Z")

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Haley is a smart woman. She managed to have a high ranking position and got out before she has too much Trump stink on her. If she ran for VP she would have to stand there and argue Trump points and not her own. She is set up for a 2024 run.

With this many in the ring it’s really impossible to predict on the D side. I’m thinking Biden/Harris is most likely but that also makes me think it won’t happen. Someone lesser known could very easily emerge from the pack.

So I’m going to put my money on the long shot. Klobuchar/Booker. Who’s giving me odds?

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#### Post date: [May 15, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/10 "2019-05-15T19:48:50Z")

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R: Nikki Haley  
D: Pete Buttigieg

I do not believe that Trump is going to stand again. He can retire undefeated.

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#### Post date: [May 16, 2019, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/11 "2019-05-16T06:15:31Z")

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If the Manchurian Cantaloupe dies or is otherwise removed from office: Pence and McConnell.

I don’t think Biden will be the “D” nominee, and I don’t even want to speculate as to who might be on the ticket right now.

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#### Post date: [May 16, 2019, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/12 "2019-05-16T09:18:41Z")

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Trump/Pence

Harris/O’Rourke

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Seems FDR was the last president to have different VPs when running for re-election and he had 3 VPs. Garner , Wallace and Truman.

It wasn’t re-election per se, but Ford had dumped Rockefeller.

I’ve read that if he hadn’t Reagan might have been able to take the nomination but that if Rockefeller had been on the ticket Ford would have beat Carter by winning New York. A no win situation for poor Jerry.

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#### Post date: [May 16, 2019, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/14 "2019-05-16T12:29:48Z")

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I think Biden / Harris is about as good a prediction as anyone could make right now. She’d help shore up some of his weaknesses with the democratic base without going too far outside “moderate” territory. And she’d be a lot more likely to take him up on the offer than Stacey Abrams.

Biden’s less of a sure thing than it may appear, though. A lot can happen in the remaining time.

My long shot: Harris / Buttigieg. We need women of color, and we need new blood. But the chances are slim.

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#### Post date: [May 16, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/15 "2019-05-16T16:22:16Z")

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I really question whether Harris would even want the VP job. Unless the President croaks, it’s a much less powerful position than being a US Senator. And she’s still young enough to be a credible candidate on her own merits for a few more election cycles.

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#### Post date: [May 16, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/16 "2019-05-16T16:51:29Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> I really question whether Harris would even want the VP job. Unless the President croaks, it’s a much less powerful position than being a US Senator. And she’s still young enough to be a credible candidate on her own merits for a few more election cycles.

I think she’d be delighted to do it. Biden may well decide one term is all he can do and being the sitting vice president gives you the name recognition and gravitas to blow the rest of the field out of the water in 2024.

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#### Post date: [May 16, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/17 "2019-05-16T16:59:10Z")

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Well, certainly Biden’s advanced age changes the calculus to some extent. But no President ever has actually chosen to voluntarily retire after one term, so I wouldn’t count too heavily on Joe being the first. And if they serve two terms, she might be in position to be the frontrunner for 2028, but it’s really hard for parties to win three Presidential elections in a row, so that’s not quite as good a position as it might appear at first.

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#### Post date: [May 16, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/18 "2019-05-16T17:11:04Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Well, certainly Biden’s advanced age changes the calculus to some extent. But no President ever has actually chosen to voluntarily retire after one term, so I wouldn’t count too heavily on Joe being the first. And if they serve two terms, she might be in position to be the frontrunner for 2028, but it’s really hard for parties to win three Presidential elections in a row, so that’s not quite as good a position as it might appear at first.

Polk quit after one, having set four goals and achieving them. LBJ only ran for one term, seeing the writing on the wall for 1968.

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#### Post date: [May 16, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-ticket-predictions/833998/19 "2019-05-16T18:14:00Z")

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Ah yes, how could I have forgotten Polk?! I don’t think LBJ’s retirement was really “voluntary” in the sense I mean, since he would have run if he’d thought he’d had a chance of winning. But technically, he would qualify. And, indeed, the Dems did proceed to nominate his VP, which seems like kind of a weird decision in retrospect, but then Humphrey did come very close to winning.

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> R: Nikki Haley  
> D: Pete Buttigieg

Wow, you really are an alien. It will be neither of those two.

I don’t know what the GOP are going to do after Pelosi is dragged into finally impeaching Trump, screaming all the way. [Edit: Could they pick Haley? I guess. Whoever it is will likely be run just to lose to Warren. But it’s the conservative movement; it will probably be a ‘white man.’]

The Democratic ticket and eventual winners will be Elizabeth Warren and a another, younger woman. Warren/Harris looks pretty good on a poster, but Gabbard might be a better pick.

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