# 2020 Virtual convention thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 17, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353 "2020-08-17T23:18:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/202 "2020-08-21T13:15:04Z")

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Good points. I’m sure Barr’s Gestapo will be deployed in Democratic areas of key states to intimidate, harass, and block voters. The mail vote will be sabotaged to the greatest extent possible. But I see the great tide coming in and it will not be stopped. I think Biden gets a big lasting bounce out of this. The MAGAbots are still there, but most everybody else just wants to change the channel.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/203 "2020-08-21T13:15:57Z")

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Here’s the transcript of Biden’s speech: [Transcript: Joe Biden's DNC speech | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/politics/biden-dnc-speech-transcript/index.html)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/204 "2020-08-21T13:41:12Z")

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> **[Fox News Hosts Lavish Praise On Biden’s ‘Home Run’ Speech: ‘Best He’s Ever Been’](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-news-hosts-praise-biden-speech_n_5f3f6e9cc5b6763e5dc18e60)**
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> Chris Wallace, Bret Baier, Dana Perino and Karl Rove all gave the former vice president high marks.

Hehe.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/205 "2020-08-21T13:42:44Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I think Biden gets a big lasting bounce out of this.

I really hope you are right about this, but there are reasons to think it might not happen, unfortunately:

- 538 has been reporting all week that TV watchers are way down compared to 2016. Obviously, there are a lot of people streaming (like me) that are not reflected in those numbers, but less people watching = less bounce.
- Nate Silver has said multiple times that he expects a smaller bounce from the virtual conventions than from the in person ones. I believe he said he was expecting a 50% smaller bounce (not sure what he’s basing that on).
- There are less undecided people this time, so less folks able to be converted. Relatedly, Joe is already pretty far ahead in polling, so I think there’s less room to grow.

Now, let’s hope that none of that is true and he gets a 10 point bounce!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/206 "2020-08-21T13:50:09Z")

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Preach it!

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/207 "2020-08-21T13:54:12Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> I really hope you are right about this, but there are reasons to think it might not happen, unfortunately:
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> - 538 has been reporting all week that TV watchers are way down compared to 2016. Obviously, there are a lot of people streaming (like me) that are not reflected in those numbers, but less people watching = less bounce.
> - Nate Silver has said multiple times that he expects a smaller bounce from the virtual conventions than from the in person ones. I believe he said he was expecting a 50% smaller bounce (not sure what he’s basing that on).
> - There are less undecided people this time, so less folks able to be converted. Relatedly, Joe is already pretty far ahead in polling, so I think there’s less room to grow.
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> Now, let’s hope that none of that is true and he gets a 10 point bounce!

There is also the fact that he is already significantly ahead and there really isn’t much room to bounce any higher.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/208 "2020-08-21T13:55:00Z")

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This is pretty funny. Out of touch, Donald?

> **[Trump Seemingly Overlooks That This Year’s DNC Was Online](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-photo-id-dnc-voting_n_5f3f3a6dc5b6763e5dc13376)**
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> The president ranted about photo IDs needed to attend the Democratic National Convention and segued into mail-in voting. Twitter set him straight.

> On the final night of the [Democratic National Convention](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/democratic-national-convention/), President [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) seemed to ignore that this year’s gathering was mostly virtual. Creating confusion, he tweeted about photo ID requirements “to get into” the convention and then used that to bash [Democrats for promoting mail-in ballots](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/democrats-post-office-trump_n_5f3beda2c5b6b1015127e020) for the November election.  
> …

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/209 "2020-08-21T14:12:13Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I sure wouldn’t want to be on the team that is putting together the RNC. This is all going to be a tough act to follow. And they don’t have anything but lies and misdirection.

The Republican Convention is going to be dark. Like Blade Runner dark. I’ll have to look out the window from time to time to remind myself that I’m not living in a dystopian hellscape.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/210 "2020-08-21T14:14:46Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> I’ll have to look out the window from time to time to remind myself that I’m not living in a dystopian hellscape.

Wait, what? Where do you live, I’m moving there!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/211 "2020-08-21T14:23:57Z")

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The grass is always greener…

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/212 "2020-08-21T15:11:00Z")

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…over the septic tank.

(To steal from Erma Bombeck) 😃

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/213 "2020-08-21T15:29:09Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> The Republican Convention is going to be dark. Like Blade Runner dark.

They need to show the Dems how it’s **supposed** to be done! They should all wear masks, but [these masks](https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/plague-doctor-masks-plague-doctor-masks-group-traditional-costume-invented-th-century-historical-character-venice-108833614.jpg)… in keeping with the spirit of today’s Republican party.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/214 "2020-08-21T15:30:47Z")

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Halloween is going to be… interesting this year.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/215 "2020-08-21T16:01:16Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Wait, what? Where do you live, I’m moving there!

Well, I did move away from Asheville.

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**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/216 "2020-08-21T16:05:07Z")

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I watched Biden’s speech last night, via streaming and several hours after. I liked what I heard and what I saw. Powerful stuff, delivered _well_. The difference between candidates could not be more underlined. Trump couldn’t have given such a speech, imo.

And the most trivial of points, but I must confess it: I like Joe’s mouth more than Trump’s. Joe gives real smiles, whereas Trump all too often does that fish-lips thing. I don’t hang my election choice on that, but. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/217 "2020-08-21T16:05:13Z")

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It is amazing how many people think this town isn’t a dystopian hellscape.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/218 "2020-08-21T16:21:22Z")

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Dystopian. Hellscape.

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Fg5ewiyh29Do3tOKFSx2YIaB7DrR4oA2wxSfdwsblDKCGyMdn1J63RUHPX1mmTWYHpH9YEBG2w1-21kk3NQz-Wo06d5mm06CKLjJ6LoaLMIbU1BBcXPmyha6nP2PVIN3i_JjVBaPCg=w600-h315-p-k "New item by K S") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/bP2UDGvriux1T6xE8)

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/219 "2020-08-21T16:39:02Z")

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It’s not letting me embed a photo for some reason, but I’ll let [USA Today show off our finest](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/03/asheville-north-carolina-police-seen-destroying-protesters-supplies/3135539001/).

(But back to the regularly scheduled thread!)

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/220 "2020-08-21T16:39:31Z")

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I’ve been to Asheville a time or too. It’s a really lovely place. I’ve always enjoyed it. And with a seemingly progressive city council as well.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2020-virtual-convention-thread/918353/221 "2020-08-21T16:41:56Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> It’s not letting me embed a photo for some reason, but I’ll let [USA Today show off our finest](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/03/asheville-north-carolina-police-seen-destroying-protesters-supplies/3135539001/).
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> (But back to the regularly scheduled thread!)

From the link.

> “As the Chief of Police I understand the concern has been raised over the destruction of water, food, and medical supplies,” Zack said in the statement. “The Asheville Police Department would always prefer confiscation over destruction. **We apologize for not being able to confiscate these supplies last night.** ”

Because stealing is better than destroying.

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