# 2021 NFL QB Carousel Thread aka the NFL Offseason Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [February 9, 2021, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489 "2021-02-09T03:25:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/301 "2021-04-23T18:13:03Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> I don’t see why a middle linebacker needs a number 5 or something.

No one over 220 lbs. should get to wear a single digit. It would just look stupid.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/302 "2021-04-23T18:21:02Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> But, ultimately, I would not be surprised if at least part of this is the belief that it’ll help sell more jerseys to fans.

You may be onto something there.

> [@Akaj](#):
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> No one over 220 lbs. should get to wear a single digit. It would just look stupid.

Cam Newton is 245 so he can be one of those exceptions that proves the rule. 😉

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/303 "2021-04-23T18:23:58Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Cam Newton is 245 so he can be one of those exceptions that proves the rule.

QBs get grandfathered in. (Though Newton does rock that #1 pretty well.) I was thinking more about linebackers – can’t imagine Urlacher wearing #5.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/304 "2021-04-23T22:19:37Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> I am still of the opinion that the biggest hurdle to better officiating in the NFL is the rules themselves.

I think the problem is more around how the game is covered. Between 4K/HD TVs, super-slo-mo, the instant reaction impact of social media and the proliferation of PTI-style shows where they argue about things fans are getting completely bombarded with information. The stuff that makes the most noise is controversy so every subjective/close call becomes Watergate.

The rules haven’t changed that much and the Refs haven’t magically gotten substantially worse. If you rewrote the rules to hypothetically be “simpler” you’d end up with a new set of outrage where perceived subjectivity goes the other way.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/305 "2021-04-23T23:56:43Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> No one over 220 lbs. should get to wear a single digit. It would just look stupid.

Teeny tiny number in a biiiiig shirt…

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/306 "2021-04-26T20:25:58Z")

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Many NFL players aren’t too bright: [Kansas City Chiefs tight end Sean Culkin becomes first NFL player to convert entire salary into Bitcoin](https://www.kmbc.com/article/kansas-city-chiefs-tight-end-sean-culkin-becomes-first-nfl-player-to-convert-entire-salary-into-bitcoin/36231420)

Yet another player who will end up bankrupt

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/307 "2021-04-27T05:22:13Z")

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That’s a man not taking care of his chicken.

[![](https://zandlslant.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/marshawn--1200x900-cropped.jpg) ](https://zandlslant.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/marshawn--1200x900-cropped.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/308 "2021-04-27T12:25:38Z")

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Along those lines, Trevor Lawrence, the soon to be first pick in the draft, has become a paid endorser for a cryptocurrency app company, and will be depositing his entire signing bonus into a crypto account with that company.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/309 "2021-04-28T18:59:51Z")

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Teddy Bridgewater has been trading to the Broncos for a 6th round pick. Interesting to see if this will affect their draft choice.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/310 "2021-04-28T19:51:11Z")

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Whose, Carolina’s or Denver’s? Neither team has exactly settled the question about their QB of the future.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/311 "2021-04-28T20:51:47Z")

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I think Carolina’s situation was fait accompli. They had made it clear that Bridgewater was gonna be out on his ass one way or another.

The only question is if they give Darnold a year or if they snap up Fields or Jones or whoever falls.

I think this signals that Denver is open to trading back or grabbing one of these WRs with upside and not reaching for a QB.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/312 "2021-04-28T22:41:46Z")

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Moved this comment to the Draft thread. Move along.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/313 "2021-04-29T22:33:26Z")

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Aaron Rodgers isn’t leaving Green Bay, no matter how much they’ve pissed him off…

Right?

> **[Sources: Rodgers doesn't want to return to Pack](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31359453/aaron-rodgers-want-return-green-bay-packers-sources-say)**
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> MVP Aaron Rodgers is so upset with the Green Bay Packers that he has told some within the organization that he does not want to return to the team, league and team sources told ESPN.

> Rodgers regarding his relationship with the Packers: "they have become like family to me"
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> — Andrew (@Pops\_Mgee) [April 29, 2021](https://twitter.com/Pops_Mgee/status/1387869878577733634?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/314 "2021-04-29T22:50:25Z")

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LOL 🤣

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/315 "2021-04-29T23:19:04Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Aaron Rodgers isn’t leaving Green Bay, no matter how much they’ve pissed him off…
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> Right?

I can’t say I’m surprised by this. Rodgers was pretty seriously ticked off when the Pack drafted Jordan Love last year (and apparently without any conversation with Rodgers about it prior to the draft). He then went out, had a stellar 2020, and won the MVP award, only to have the Packers not be willing to (or maybe just not able to) rework his contract over the past 3 months.

And, then, having nursed a grudge for a year (if not longer), this news comes out on draft day.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/316 "2021-04-29T23:21:34Z")

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And, in other weird news: the Jaguars had Tim Tebow in for a tryout recently – as a tight end.

Jaguars management: “We’ve gotten rid of every good player we had, and pissed off the fans. Maybe we can placate the ones who are also Gators fans?”

> **[Jaguars say they worked out Tebow as tight end](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31359444/sources-tim-tebow-works-jacksonville-jaguars-tight-end)**
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> Tim Tebow had a workout with the Jaguars as a tight end, the team said.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/317 "2021-04-30T00:15:04Z")

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Fuck Brian Gutekunst. The bad feelings, lack of salary cap room, and stalled renegotiations are entirely on his shoulders because he wanted to flex his fucking ego and hugely overdraft a developmental QB last year.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/318 "2021-04-30T00:18:31Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> The bad feelings, lack of salary cap room, and stalled renegotiations are entirely on his shoulders because he wanted to flex his fucking ego and hugely overdraft a developmental QB last year.

And, all of this, knowing that your current QB – who is the best player on your team, and one of the best at his position of all time – has a tendency to be prickly and thin-skinned, and when he feels under-appreciated or not consulted on major team decisions, takes it personally.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/319 "2021-04-30T00:35:33Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> prickly and thin-skinned, and when he feels under-appreciated or not consulted on major team decisions, takes it personally.

So maybe Rodgers should get a little bit of the blame, then? I mean, he’s a great player and all, but this makes him sound like a whiny bitch.

(I know absolutely nothing about this situation other than what I am reading in this thread).

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/320 "2021-04-30T01:19:07Z")

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I understand it’s a common opinion among his detractors.

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