# 2021 NFL QB Carousel Thread aka the NFL Offseason Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [February 9, 2021, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489 "2021-02-09T03:25:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/521 "2021-08-16T18:24:44Z")
Yeah I used to enjoy the preseason and watched games in the past with wide-eyed innocence expecting to see the next big star get his chance to shine for the first time on TV in an NFL uniform. Except I’ve seen so many “preseason stars” that end up on practice squads or being shuffled from one team to another as eternal backups or slide off to the XFL or other one year upstart league, or just go work at a grocery store as a bagger. There are people who do great in preseason when they’re against 2nd and 3rd string opponents, where people don’t care about winning because the result is meaningless, and where people aren’t using their true game plans because they’re saving them for _real_ football. Once you have them compete in actual NFL games they just can’t succeed. I think preseason games are extremely valuable for coaches to evaluate their rosters but for fans watching they mean only slightly more than the Pro Bowl. I don’t generally catch more than a few minutes of any given game. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/522 "2021-08-16T19:23:03Z")
While I don’t like the extra regular season game, I’m glad they got rid of the 4th preseason game where only the most fringe players will be playing. Plus, I don’t have to listen to sports talk radio bitch about it either. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/523 "2021-08-17T15:34:08Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Week One of the preseason is in the books, and every rookie QB showed flashes and the fans really have a reason to be excited for their new franchise QB, every player was in the best shape of their career, every young player has tremendous “upside”, and all the UDFAs have a good chance to make the team. Is it time to post my favorite article? > **[Your Team Should Win 11, Maybe 12 Games This Season](https://deadspin.com/your-team-should-win-11-maybe-12-games-this-season-1566859474)** > > With the release of the NFL schedule, fans everywhere finally have the chance to see their team's 16-game slate, and work out probable final records. And yeah, look at those games; your team's going to the playoffs for sure. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/524 "2021-08-17T17:07:38Z")
Tebow! You’re cut! > **[Tim Tebow released by Jaguars, ending tight end experiment: 'I'm grateful for...](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tim-tebow-released-by-jaguars-ending-tight-end-experiment-im-grateful-for-the-chance/)** > > Tim Tebow released by Jaguars, issues formal statement following move: 'I'm grateful for the chance' ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/525 "2021-08-17T17:12:48Z")
I’m reminded of a line from “The Natural” - ‘Son, people don’t start playing ball at your age. They retire!’ ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/526 "2021-08-18T17:21:36Z")
In non-Tebow news, Washington is going to go with one of these eight names: Armada Brigade Commanders Defenders Presidents Redhogs Redwolves Football Team ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/527 "2021-08-18T18:36:50Z")
“Commanders” gets my vote. But the article ([Washington Football Team narrows list of possible new names down to three final candidates - CBSSports.com](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/washington-football-team-narrows-list-of-possible-new-names-down-to-three-final-candidates/)) says the new name won’t take effect until early 2022. WTF has the WFT been waiting for all these months? ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/528 "2021-08-18T19:55:04Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > WTF has the WFT been waiting for all these months? My guess is on the election and seeing if D.C. statehood got momentum. Had that happened, they might have dropped ‘Washington’ for a D.C. name. Now, with D.C. statehood dead for the foreseeable future, they’ll stick with Washington and then pick a new nickname ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/529 "2021-08-18T20:11:13Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > WTF has the WFT been waiting for all these months? Team management may have been a bit preoccupied, as they have been dealing with a lengthy sexual misconduct investigation, which ultimately led to Dan Snyder temporarily stepping down from day-to-day operations in early July. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/530 "2021-08-18T21:01:09Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > My guess is on the election and seeing if D.C. statehood got momentum. Had that happened, they might have dropped ‘Washington’ for a D.C. name. > [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Team management may have been a bit preoccupied, as they have been dealing with a lengthy sexual misconduct investigation, which ultimately led to Dan Snyder temporarily stepping down from day-to-day operations in early July. Both are possible, but NFL teams are billion dollar operations. I’d think they would be able to focus on such an important branding decision – despite these distractions – with an eye toward having the new brand on the field this season. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/531 "2021-08-18T21:15:16Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > I’d think they would be able to focus on such an important branding decision – despite these distractions – with an eye toward having the new brand on the field this season. With most teams, I’d agree. However, Dan Snyder has always been highly involved in team operations, and he was the one who was adamant, up until last summer, that the team would _never_ change its nickname. I would suspect that, like many decisions that the team makes, decisions about the name would all go through his office. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/532 "2021-08-18T23:05:35Z")
I don’t hate any of those names except “football team” which is a pitiful embarrassment. I also think “Presidents” is dumb but it’s better than nothing, which is what they have now. I legit like “redwolves”. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/533 "2021-08-20T19:14:14Z")
There was some actual substantial pre-season action last night with the Patriots dominating the Eagles 35-0. I only saw the recap, but Cam Newton looked surprisingly sharp. Mac Jones also looked pretty good in two quarters of action. Mostly I saw him checking down, but he still moved the ball and the offense was scoring, with no big mistakes, so I’ll take it. And the defense pitched a shutout, so obviously that’s a good showing. Standard disclaimer: preseason, means nothing, blah blah blah. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/534 "2021-08-20T19:30:33Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > …And the defense pitched a shutout, so obviously that’s a good showing. Standard disclaimer: preseason, means nothing, blah blah blah. Pitching a shutout is always good, but doing so against Joe Flacco and Nick Mullens makes it much less impressive. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/535 "2021-08-20T19:48:57Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > There was some actual substantial pre-season action last night with the Patriots dominating the Eagles 35-0. I only saw the recap, but Cam Newton looked surprisingly sharp. Mac Jones also looked pretty good in two quarters of action. Mostly I saw him checking down, but he still moved the ball and the offense was scoring, with no big mistakes, so I’ll take it. And the defense pitched a shutout, so obviously that’s a good showing. Standard disclaimer: preseason, means nothing, blah blah blah. A friend of mine, with whom I play the Final Fantasy XIV MMO, is a rabid Eagles fan, and she was watching the Eagles game last night while we were chatting in the MMO. She was really upset by how crappy the Eagles looked – when I mentioned “it’s only preseason,” she replied “yeah, but I think they’re going to suck just as much in the regular season at this rate.” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/536 "2021-08-20T20:20:04Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Pitching a shutout is always good, but doing so against Joe Flacco and Nick Mullens makes it much less impressive. Hey now! Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl! (Okay, well, he was at least the starting QB when his team won it, he wasn’t the reason they won it despite being named MVP.) And Nick Mullens! Uh… I’m pretty sure he was there when the 49ers went to the Super Bowl and lost to Kansas City. So he at least has been there. That’s some pedigree!!! (I wonder if at any point in that preseason game that the Eagles had a play called “Philly Special”.) ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/537 "2021-08-20T22:53:58Z")
I know this isn’t the café but the host of Jeopardy is relevant to football now. > **[Aaron Rodgers "definitely" would have accepted Jeopardy hosting gig, which...](https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/20/aaron-rodgers-definitely-would-have-accepted-jeopardy-hosting-gig-which-suddenly-is-open-again/)** > > The news has broken that the Mike Richards era is over as Jeopardy! host. (There was one?) Now, the producers will pivot to looking for a replacement to the replacement for Alex Trebeck.They don’t to look very far for someone who will do it.Packers... What is it about Green Bay and QB drama? All the Favre drama and now Aaron Rodgers. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/538 "2021-08-20T22:58:36Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > What is it about Green Bay and QB drama? All the Favre drama and now Aaron Rodgers. It’s all the cheese and beer, it makes people feisty. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/539 "2021-08-20T23:02:56Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > Cam Newton looked surprisingly sharp. When he’s healthy, he’s still a top tier QB. The problem is he’s rarely been 100% the last several years. Or even 80%. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489/540 "2021-08-21T00:01:13Z")
Rodgers used to be one of my favorite QBs, but he’s just turning into an ass. No doubt one of the more talented signal callers of his generation, but he’s not in same the category as Manning or Brady. He doesn’t have the leadership traits, and while I know his receivers probably have his back, I suspect his act is growing thin on some of the other players. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-nfl-qb-carousel-thread-aka-the-nfl-offseason-thread/932489.md?page=28)