# 2021 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [February 10, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629 "2021-02-10T19:29:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/21 "2021-02-11T12:31:26Z")
She recorded it at 16, but I bow down to your greater knowledge about when it was released. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/22 "2021-02-11T12:44:47Z")
Many years later, another teenaged girl would record a song that was released to teach her that it was terrible and that everyone would hate it, only to have it sell massively. But I don’t think Rebecca “Gotta get down on FRIIIday” Black is likely to become a Hall of Famer. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/23 "2021-02-11T14:54:07Z")
Do relations among the original band members ever play a roll in induction? I seem to remember that Blondie wasn’t allowed to play at their induction because members refused to take the stage with an original member (Gary Valentine?). That would explain why a groundbreaking group like the GoGos are still overlooked 40 years after their first record (with their original, long-estranged bass player.) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/24 "2021-02-11T14:56:20Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Do relations among the original band members ever play a roll in induction? Induction? Probably not. There’s often a lot of heat and angst about whether band members who have been on the outs with each other will “kiss and make up” for the induction ceremony and concert, and there are sometimes questions (and discussions) about which members of a particular band wind up on the roster which is submitted for induction, but I don’t think that it plays a major role on whether or not a group gets voted in. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/25 "2021-02-11T15:30:09Z")
The reason I wondered that is that the annual concert must be a huge percentage of the Hall of Fame’s revenue. Might they be hesitant to induct active acts that won’t play in that concert? I guess it would be easier to drop the inclusion rule that prevented Brodie from performing. Perhaps they already have. ---
**Author:** ![Keith1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6de8d8/32.png) [@Keith1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keith1)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/26 "2021-02-12T14:31:46Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > The reason I wondered that is that the annual concert must be a huge percentage of the Hall of Fame’s revenue. The Hall started as a noble project. Once the suits get full control I foresee it changing to the point where only the most popular, prettiest and high sales volumes are (secretly) permitted as inductees. It will make good business sense for attracting paid admissions and the sale of paraphernalia. Are The Guess Who in the Hall yet? If not, they should be. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/27 "2021-02-12T17:01:42Z")
> [@Keith1](#): > > Are The Guess Who in the Hall yet? If not, they should be. They’re not. I’m a little more surprised that BTO aren’t in, and I’m pretty sure that neither have been nominated. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/28 "2021-02-12T17:20:06Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > The reason I wondered that is that the annual concert must be a huge percentage of the Hall of Fame’s revenue. I’m not sure that that’s the case. I have no doubt that the concert has historially been a hot ticket, and I also have no doubt that the Hall makes a few bucks by selling the broadcast rights to it (to HBO, if I remember correctly). But, that’s one concert, with attendance probably in the high 4 to low 5 digits (and a lot of attendees probably getting in on comp tickets). I would suspect that, at least prior to COVID, most of their operating revenue was probably coming from ticket sales to the Hall itself, in Cleveland (the admission price is $26), and merchandise sales from their gift shop. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/29 "2021-02-12T17:35:35Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > > [@Keith1](#): > > > > Are The Guess Who in the Hall yet? If not, they should be. > > They’re not. I’m a little more surprised that BTO aren’t in, and I’m pretty sure that neither have been nominated. It’s probably game over for pretty much every notable 60’s-70’s [to ~1975-77] classic rock act still left on the outside looking in. Note that none of them got nominated this year, aside from Rundgren (the Dolls are proto-punk). The Hall doesn’t have the equivalent of football or baseball’s Senior/Veteran’s Committees. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/30 "2021-02-12T18:11:40Z")
Whole lotta ‘non-rock n’ roll’ on that list. ---
**Author:** ![julezz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@julezz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/julezz)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/31 "2021-02-15T14:02:45Z")
I can’t believe Chaka isn’t in already! There are artists who are nominated, but don’t want it. Linda Ronstadt was nominated in the 90’s, but at that time she was a bit put off by the industry, I guess. She refused it, as a feminist statement, I think. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/32 "2021-02-15T14:39:11Z")
> [@julezz](#): > > Linda Ronstadt was nominated in the 90’s, but at that time she was a bit put off by the industry, I guess. She refused it, as a feminist statement, I think. Ronstadt was inducted in 2014, but had already stopped performing because of Parkinson’s disease. She did say that even had she been healthy, she didn’t care much about awards and might not have attended anyway. ---
**Author:** ![julezz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@julezz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/julezz)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/33 "2021-02-15T18:48:26Z")
I know. But, in the 90’s she basically told them what to do with their award. I think there was a lot of shadiness going on at that time concerning the HOF. I remember reading about it in Rolling Stone at that time, but I am so sorry that I can’t remember the details. The 90’s was a weird time in music, especially in Rock. Turns out, it only had a little life left in the mainstream… ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/34 "2021-02-15T21:21:26Z")
> [@Art\_Rock](#): > > Kate Bush stands out for me. Fascinating artist and highly influential. > > > [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > > > The other amazing thing about her is that, when she released her album at the age of 16, she stood up to the (male dominated) music industry bosses and forced them to release Wuthering Heights as the first single. They thought it would be a lesson to her when it didn’t perform. It stayed at number one for weeks and she was probably the first female musician in the UK to have total control of her career. > > She was 19 when she released her album and first hit single. I’ve read of her early work, incorporating dance, music, singing and video, as basically Madonna, before there was a Madonna. Fantastically gifted performer. Even if the only song of hers most US residents know is _Running Up That Hill_. EDIT: I mean, can you imagine if this [tour](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tour_of_Life) of hers was around when MTV got big? Talk about ahead of her time… ---
**Author:** ![julezz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@julezz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/julezz)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/35 "2021-02-16T03:06:40Z")
She was amazing! We wouldn’t have many female (or male!) singer/songwriters with that literal, poetic bent to their lyrics if it weren’t for her. And that angelic, heartbreaking soprano! She needs to be acknowledged for her enormous influence on modern songwriting. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/36 "2021-05-12T13:55:04Z")
Picks are in Foo Fighters · The Go-Go’s · JAY-Z · Carole King · Todd Rundgren · Tina Turner [Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2021 inductees are.... | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/12/entertainment/rock-hall-fame-inductees/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/37 "2021-05-12T14:13:08Z")
So the Go-Go’s get in, but Jethro Tull and Devo do not. Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/38 "2021-05-12T14:23:04Z")
Do men have fantasies about Jethro Tull or Devo members? That probably explains part of it. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/39 "2021-05-12T14:25:27Z")
In addition to the inductees who were voted in on the main ballot, the following artists are also being inducted under special categories (note that this appears to mean that Kraftwerk has finally gotten in, after being on the main ballot a number of times, but not making it in): Early Influence Award: - Kraftwerk - Charley Patton - Gil Scott-Heron Musical Excellence Award: - LL Cool J - Billy Preston - Randy Rhoads Ahmet Ertegun Award: - Clarence Avant ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/932629/40 "2021-05-12T14:36:32Z")
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