# 2021 SDMB Celebrity Death Pool

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881 "2020-12-01T02:10:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1311 "2021-09-30T04:38:38Z")

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[Charles Wade Mills](https://www.avpress.com/news/newsline/charles-w-mills-philosopher-has-died-at-70/article_8e25eb12-2009-11ec-8efc-ff6752a327e7.html), philosopher who specialized in structural racism, dies of cancer at 70.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1312 "2021-09-30T04:45:43Z")

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[quote=“Stephe96, post:1307, topic:926881, full:true”]

> **[Old Yeller star Tommy Kirk dies at 79](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10042813/amp/Tommy-Kirk-known-starring-role-Disney-classic-Old-Yeller-dies-79.html?__twitter_impression=true)**
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> Tommy Kirk, who starred in the 1957 Disney film Old Yeller, has died at the age of 79. The actor was found dead in his Las Vegas home on Tuesday, September 28 at 8 pm by his neighbor.

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As a kid, I loved him as Grumio in Babes in Toyland.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1313 "2021-09-30T04:51:17Z")

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Jack Lord had him kicked off of Hawaii 5-0 because he had too strong of a presence. He was an excellent actor.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1314 "2021-09-30T05:03:49Z")

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According to the linked article he was having an affair with a 15 year old. So maybe 57 years too late. ☹

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1315 "2021-09-30T10:27:28Z")

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I didn’t read past the headers, but according to them, he was 21 at the time, which was 1964. When people would have done little more than raise eyebrows at a _heterosexual_ relationship between a 21 year old and a 15 year old. But the 15 year old was another boy.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1316 "2021-09-30T12:25:47Z")

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A famous 21 year old boy and a 15 year old girl would always raise red flags and bring forth a bunch of hillbilly jokes at best. Thats a college junior dating a high school sophomore. R Kelly is going to prison for just something like this.

> **[r/Advice - I have a friend that's 21 and is dating a 15 year old girl. I...](https://www.reddit.com/r/Advice/comments/ccdimx/i_have_a_friend_thats_21_and_is_dating_a_15_year/)**
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> 279 votes and 146 comments so far on Reddit

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1317 "2021-09-30T17:33:22Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> A famous 21 year old boy and a 15 year old girl would always raise red flags and bring forth a bunch of hillbilly jokes at best. Thats a college junior dating a high school sophomore. R Kelly is going to prison for just something like this.

I can’t say how fame would or wouldn’t have changed things back in 1964. But I had a close female friend in high school who was dating a guy five years older than she was, all the way through HS; they got married after her first year of college. That would have been 1972 that they got married, after having dated for ~5 years. And we weren’t talking trailer trash here; they both lived in the well-to-do neighborhood in our area.

And a HS classmate of my sister’s, when they were 16, was involved with a 30 year old guy. This was in 1976. I have no idea whether the girl’s parents knew, but among her friends in our upper middle class neighborhood it was regarded as a bit creepy maybe, but nobody thought of it in terms of legality or child molesting or any of that.

Societal attitudes about such things were very different fifty years ago. The past really is a foreign country. In the 1980s, those attitudes went through a sea change. My recollection, for what such recollections are worth, is that it started with the McMartin Preschool trial, and fairly rapidly worked its way up from there, age-wise.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1318 "2021-09-30T17:34:54Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> According to the linked article he was having an affair with a 15 year old. So maybe 57 years too late. ☹

Don’t ruin my Old Yeller joke with reality.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1319 "2021-09-30T17:46:40Z")

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Apologies.

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1320 "2021-10-01T03:24:08Z")

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[Greg Gilbert](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/sep/30/greg-gilbert-frontman-with-indie-band-delays-dies-aged-44), dead at 44… 56 points for **Hal Briston, jeezums, loach, Mean\_MrMustard, phungi, Registered\_at\_last, RTFirefly**

| Rank | Player | Score | Picks(Unique) |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | jeezums | 247 | 6(1) |
| 2 | RTFirefly | 222 | 5 |
| 3 | Registered at Last | 198 | 4 |
| 4 | phungi | 191 | 5(1) |
| 4 | psychonaut | 191 | 4(1) |
| 6 | GIGObuster | 186 | 5(2) |
| 7 | Team Dirt | 153 | 7(1) |
| 8 | Happy\_Lendervedder | 152 | 5 |
| 9 | Hal Briston | 145 | 5(1) |
| 10 | RobotDevilDog | 93 | 3 |
| 11 | Loach | 86 | 2 |
| 11 | Mean\_MrMustard | 86 | 2 |
| 13 | Superdude | 75 | 2 |
| 14 | candide | 63 | 2 |
| 14 | CreaseMunky | 63 | 2 |
| 14 | Hoopy\_Frood | 63 | 2 |
| 14 | It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery | 63 | 2 |
| 14 | Rebo | 63 | 2 |
| 19 | Queen\_Anne\_s\_Lace | 51 | 2 |
| 20 | Dung\_Beetle | 48 | 2 |
| 20 | WolfpackJeep | 48 | 2 |
| 22 | Mahaloth | 46 | 3 |
| 23 | J\_P\_L | 43 | 2 |
| 24 | smithsb | 40 | 2(1) |
| 25 | GreaterZamboni | 37 | 2(1) |
| 25 | imthjckaz | 37 | 2 |
| 27 | xizor | 36 | 2 |
| 28 | a35362 | 31 | 2 |
| 28 | amarinth | 31 | 2 |
| 28 | critter42 | 31 | 2 |
| 28 | NotherYinzer | 31 | 2 |
| 28 | Precambrianmollusc | 31 | 2 |
| 33 | ataraxy42 | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | BobLibDem | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | Borborygmi | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | Captain\_Klutz | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | Catamount | 30 | 2(1) |
| 33 | D\_Anconia | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | Dr Girlfriend | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | jenstvns | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | JohnT | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | kayT | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | Little\_Nemo | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | Lsura | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | Maus\_Magill | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | McDeath\_the\_Mad | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | Mona\_Lott | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | Ponch8 | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | Reindeer\_Flotilla | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | Stephe96 | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | Tristan | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | vivalostwages | 30 | 1 |
| 33 | Wallet | 30 | 1 |
| 54 | irritant | 29 | 1(1) |
| 55 | Paul\_in\_Saudi | 28 | 3 |
| 56 | zadscmc | 27 | 2(1) |
| 57 | Snowboarder\_Bo | 23 | 2(2) |
| 58 | Sapphiredragon76 | 22 | 1(1) |
| 59 | Zero00 | 20 | 2 |
| 60 | Hatchie | 17 | 1(1) |
| 61 | Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle | 14 | 1 |
| 62 | GuanoLad | 13 | 1 |
| 62 | lel | 13 | 1 |
| 64 | Pardel\_Lux | 12 | 1 |
| 64 | Shoeless | 12 | 1 |
| 66 | Baker | 10 | 1(1) |
| 66 | commasense | 10 | 3(2) |
| 66 | kitap | 10 | 2 |
| 69 | ProfPepperwinkle | 9 | 1 |
| 70 | Old\_Wench | 8 | 1(1) |
| 71 | Biotop | 7 | 1(1) |
| 71 | madsircool | 7 | 1 |
| 73 | Dancer\_Flight | 1 | 1 |
| 73 | Gatopescado | 1 | 1 |
| 73 | SpoilerVirgin | 1 | 1 |

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1322 "2021-10-01T04:02:49Z")

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Still holding on at #62.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1323 "2021-10-01T14:09:36Z")

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TicTok “star” Gabriel Salazar has [died at 19](https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/gabriel-salazar-tiktok-star-dead-at-19-after-high-speed-police-chase/ar-AAP2oxm?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531) following a high-speed chase with the police.

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**Author:** ![Registered\_at\_Last](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@Registered\_at\_Last](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Registered_at_Last)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1324 "2021-10-01T15:24:26Z")

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Wow, I’ve had him on my list since 2017. I was hoping that he would continue to beat the odds. He lived his life as fully as he could while he lived with the terminal diagnosis. His kids had a chance to grow up enough to at least remember their dad. 😢 Having said all that, I will still take the points. (Editted to add, he was the last surviving member of my 2017 list. 2013 list was my only previously “complete” list)

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2021, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1325 "2021-10-02T03:18:13Z")

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That’s a long time between scores.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1326 "2021-10-04T00:48:36Z")

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That was a busy September! The month began with Team Dirt in the lead with 137 points, and only five players in triple figures.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1327 "2021-10-04T12:38:45Z")

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Former Missouri Congressman Todd Akin is legitimately dead at 74.

[https://www.google.com/url?q=https://thehill.com/homenews/house/575120-ex-rep-todd-akin-who-lost-senate-bid-after-controversial-rape-comment-dies-at&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjktIil4rDzAhUEGFkFHVrtDq8Q0PADegQIAhAG&usg=AOvVaw3kMa5GBkjkSLDtOVY-eNIY](https://www.google.com/url?q=https://thehill.com/homenews/house/575120-ex-rep-todd-akin-who-lost-senate-bid-after-controversial-rape-comment-dies-at&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjktIil4rDzAhUEGFkFHVrtDq8Q0PADegQIAhAG&usg=AOvVaw3kMa5GBkjkSLDtOVY-eNIY)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1328 "2021-10-04T13:01:18Z")

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You’re saying that his body found a way to shut that whole thing down?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1329 "2021-10-04T15:08:48Z")

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NASCAR’s [John Wes Townley](https://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/32332215/former-nascar-driver-john-wes-townley-killed-georgia-shooting) was killed Saturday morning after a shooting. He was 31.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1330 "2021-10-04T17:58:20Z")

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> **[‘Bridgerton’ Emmy winner Marc Pilcher dead at 53 of COVID-19](https://nypost.com/2021/10/04/bridgerton-emmy-winner-marc-pilcher-dead-at-53-of-covid-19/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)**
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> The critically acclaimed hair and makeup artist was vaccinated and had no health conditions. 

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1331 "2021-10-04T18:13:44Z")

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Swedish artist Lars Vilks is dead at 75:

> **[Swedish artist threatened for Muhammad sketch dies in crash](https://apnews.com/article/europe-accidents-sweden-lars-vilks-72926f7d6909e849f73ef212b3ed1d4c)**
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> STOCKHOLM (AP) — Swedish artist Lars Vilks, who had lived under police protection since making a sketch of the Prophet Muhammad with a dog’s body in 2007, died in a weekend car crash along with two police bodyguards, police said Monday.

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