# 2021 SDMB Celebrity Death Pool

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881 "2020-12-01T02:10:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1352 "2021-10-09T19:50:50Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> First Rumsfeld, now this guy. People responsible for our Iraq fiasco are starting to bite the dust.
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> Yet Kissinger lives on.

At the start of the war he was the division commander of the 4th Infantry Division. His responsibility was to his soldiers. At that level you are not setting policy or even overall tactics and strategy. When he did become in charge in Iraq years later he was in charge of handing control back to the Iraqi Army.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1353 "2021-10-09T19:56:12Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> At the start of the war he was the division commander of the 4th Infantry Division. His responsibility was to his soldiers. At that level you are not setting policy or even overall tactics and strategy. When he did become in charge in Iraq years later he was in charge of handing control back to the Iraqi Army.

So he went directly from division commander to in charge of the whole schmeer but just at the very end, with nothing in between? Just asking because his name was familiar back in those years. He wasn’t some nobody in terms of the view from back home.

This isn’t really a thread for this sort of back-and-forth, but if you’re going to use hero-worship phrases about a guy who left a very different impression with me, well then.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1354 "2021-10-09T21:43:05Z")

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Nah not interested. Like or dislike my post doesn’t matter much to me.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1355 "2021-10-09T21:46:10Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> > [@RTFirefly](#):
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> > Yet Kissinger lives on.
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> [He’s on my list, I think, but he was also listed in the “fattest people to make it to 100” list as a possible candidate.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-fattest-person-to-live-to-100-years/841067)
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> Note: We are aware he is not yet 100, but awfully close.

That’s odd, I never thought of him as fat. He just seems to be folding into himself as he gets older.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1356 "2021-10-09T22:07:08Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> That’s odd, I never thought of him as fat. He just seems to be folding into himself as he gets older.

I think it is more of “fattest to make it that far”. He isn’t hugely obese, but he isn’t skinny as a rail like so many centenarians. Jimmy Carter is thinner than Kissinger, I think, but is also not as skinny as many 100+ year survivors.

[I do agree that he is folding in on himself, though, which may contribute to why I think of him as heavy.](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi1.wp.com%2Fnypost.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F2%2F2021%2F01%2FUSA_CHINA_DIPLOMACY_KISSINGER.jpg%3Fquality%3D90%26strip%3Dall%26ssl%3D1&f=1&nofb=1) I wonder if he has a spinal condition in his old age.

[Jimmy Carter, God bless him, looks amazing.](https://static.timesofisrael.com/jewishchronicle/uploads/2021/04/president-jimmy-carter-flag-bg-640x400.jpg) I want him to hit 110. I admire him more than any living president and more than almost all former ones, too.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1357 "2021-10-09T22:16:08Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> [Jimmy Carter, God bless him, looks amazing.](https://static.timesofisrael.com/jewishchronicle/uploads/2021/04/president-jimmy-carter-flag-bg-640x400.jpg) I want him to hit 110. I admire him more than any living president and more than almost all former ones, too.

Well, I would put him on my list in order to keep him alive, except I occasionally score, so it would be my own bad luck. And anyway, I generally do not put Americans on my list.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1358 "2021-10-10T03:40:28Z")

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Speaking of seventies presidents, [Aboulhasan Banisadr](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-58846918), successor to Shah Reza Pahlavi as top-ish guy in Iran, a 12-point waste.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1359 "2021-10-10T13:34:57Z")

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[A.Q. Khan](https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/1447153753006608384), father of the Pakistani nuclear weapons program, also alleged to have shared nuclear weapons technology with North Korea, Iran, and Libya, dead at 85.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1360 "2021-10-10T22:03:38Z")

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> **[Granville Adams, Actor on HBO’s ‘Oz’, Dies After Battle With Cancer](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/granville-adams-dead-hbo-oz-1235029361/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)**
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> 'Oz' creator Tom Fontana and Adams' series co-stars took to social media to pay tribute to the late actor: "His smile was infectious, his chuckle was intoxicating."

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1361 "2021-10-10T23:48:23Z")

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> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#):
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> [Bob Schiffmann](https://thespoon.tech/microwave-industry-legend-bob-schiffmann-passes/) guru of the microwave oven.

I just got to say I totally missed a joke about his countdown timer expiring here.

Anyway…

[Neal Sher](https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-edit-neal-sher-20211008-oh6xc3o2inbkvlelflhczcranq-story.html), former AIPAC director and the U.S.'s leading Nazi hunter dies at 74.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1362 "2021-10-11T13:26:31Z")

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[Alabama teen chef Fuller Goldsmith, known for TV cooking shows, dies at 17.](https://apnews.com/article/entertainment-lifestyle-alabama-cooking-shows-health-c83a9e59caf71b6d76f4afdfe6fd9825)

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1363 "2021-10-11T14:52:56Z")

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I debated about whether to post that death since he was under 18 at the time of death.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1364 "2021-10-11T15:12:58Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Yet Kissinger lives on.

Born 1923 he has reached an age where to keep on living may be a bigger punishment.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1365 "2021-10-11T20:38:38Z")

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> **['Ex on the Beach' Star Chris Pearson Dead at 25 from Stabbing](https://amp.tmz.com/2021/10/11/ex-on-the-beach-star-chris-pearson-dead-dies/?adid=social-twa&__twitter_impression=true)**
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> Chris Pearson, one of the first contestants on MTV's hit show, "Ex on the Beach," is dead from a stabbing incident ... TMZ has learned.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1366 "2021-10-11T22:13:27Z")

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This is weird because I was just reading that Christopher Nolan’s next movie will be based on American Prometheus:

> **[Martin J. Sherwin, Pulitzer-winning scholar, dead at 84](https://wcti12.com/amp/news/entertainment/martin-j-sherwin-pulitzer-winning-scholar-dead-at-84?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tndsocial&__twitter_impression=true)**
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> NEW YORK (AP) — Martin J. Sherwin, a leading scholar of atomic weapons who in

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1367 "2021-10-11T23:02:39Z")

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-11 points but still….

> **[Ruthie Tompson, Legend of Disney Animation, Dies at 111](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/ruthie-tompson-dead-disney-animator-1235029905/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)**
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> Her first feature was 'Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs,' and she was one of the first women to be admitted into the Hollywood camera union.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1368 "2021-10-12T16:03:58Z")

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Quite a life story!

Nitpick: points = max{(100-age), 0}

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1369 "2021-10-13T00:25:16Z")

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Paddy Moloney of The Chieftans has died:

> **[Ireland has lost a ‘true talent and advocate for traditional music’ – warm...](https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-has-lost-a-true-talent-and-advocate-for-traditional-music-warm-tributes-for-legendary-musician-paddy-moloney-83-40941000.html)**
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> President Michael D Higgins has described legendary musician Paddy Moloney who has died at the age of 83 as being “at the forefront of the renaissance of interest in Irish music”.

Brian

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1370 "2021-10-13T14:15:31Z")

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Actor/rapper [Ricarlo Flanigan](https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/actor-rapper-ricarlo-flanagan-dies-12-days-after-tweeting-about-covid-diagnosis/ar-AAPrdel?ocid=msedgntp) dies from COVID at the age of 40.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2021-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/926881/1371 "2021-10-13T14:41:46Z")

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They’ve since corrected his age to 41.

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