# 2022 midterms after a Biden win. Can Democrats avoid 1994 and 2010 part 3? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 6, 2020, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336 "2020-10-06T11:49:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/21 "2020-10-07T04:28:56Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > I believe there’s no way a real honest-to-goodness “grab” can be consummated within 2 years but whatever legislating begins to happen, there goes the panic buying again and out come the voters. You’re ignorant as to what Biden and the Democrats are proposing. It’s kind of hard for the average person to panic buy a firearm that will have a registration fee and tax on it as much as 5 grand. Also, if you don’t think this can happen within 2 years may I remind you how fast the prohibition against bump stocks happened. Less than 1.5 years. A lot of people are ignorant of the fact that even grandpas old rifle up in the attic could make you a federal felon for possession. This needs to be publicized. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/22 "2020-10-07T04:46:42Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > The stench of Trump will last a lot longer than the stench of Bush. So Democrats do have that going for them. Trump, if he is around, will demand another go. The stench coming from there and the supreme court will make democrats to be more involved in the future IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/23 "2020-10-07T04:56:28Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > You’re ignorant as to what Biden and the Democrats are proposing. It’s kind of hard for the average person to panic buy a firearm that will have a registration fee and tax on it as much as 5 grand. Could you point me to this plan Biden and the Democrats are proposing? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/24 "2020-10-07T05:02:19Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > A lot of people are ignorant of the fact that even grandpas old rifle up in the attic could make you a federal felon for possession. This needs to be publicized. What **tripolar** says, BTW Many Vietnam veterans and also gulf war ones are grandpas now, you bet some weapons are not supposed to be kept if the grandsons are felons or with no training. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/25 "2020-10-07T05:10:57Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > BTW Many Vietnam veterans and also gulf war ones are grandpas now, you bet some weapons are not supposed to be kept if the grandsons are felons or with no training. That’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about civilian semi-auto firearms that will be classified as “assault weapons” though they were bought as hunting rifles. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/26 "2020-10-07T05:33:58Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > That’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about civilian semi-auto firearms that will be classified as “assault weapons” though they were bought as hunting rifles. OK, still that does not show what me and **tripolar** asked for. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/27 "2020-10-07T06:27:03Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > OK, still that does not show what me and **tripolar** asked for. It’s on his campaign website. But there are already several bills that are written that go much, much further and are ready to be introduced in February… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/28 "2020-10-07T06:49:28Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > It’s on his campaign website. Not really, I checked, the closest I noticed is that whatever rifle is marked as an assault weapon will fall into registration and background checks required. Hence the point made about grandson felons are the ones that need to worry about. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/29 "2020-10-07T06:58:34Z")
Nah. Biden wins and the senate flips. The left will make the same mistake they made in '94 and re-enact the assault weapons ban or some other equally stupid gun legislation. 2022 will be a repeat of '94 and for the same reason. “Those who cannot remember (or ignore) the past are condemned to repeat it.”– George Santayana , The Life of Reason, 1905. Parenthesis mine. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/30 "2020-10-07T07:05:22Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Not really, I checked, the closest I noticed is that whatever rifle is marked as an assault weapon will fall into registration and background checks required. Which they will declare anything which functions via semi-automatic action and any that accepts a detachable magazine which includes some pump action rifles and shotguns. And as far as registration is concerned, the fee for machine guns right now is $200. They can raise that to anything they want, and close the registration process such as they did in 1986, making it impossible to legally own arms that you already own. They will strongarm states into also passing ridiculously prohibitive gun laws by using tax funds such as they did to force the national speed limit, BAC limits, seat belt laws, etc… If the Democrats take the full Congress and White house they are not going to make the mistake like they did in 1994 and just have cosmetic changes that were easy to skirt. They are going to go full bore, pun intended. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/31 "2020-10-07T07:21:05Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > And as far as registration is concerned, the fee for machine guns right now is $200. They can raise that to anything they want, and close the registration process such as they did in 1986 That was for full automatic weapons in 1986. Not even the NRA thought then that allowing fully automatic weapons to be in civilian hands was a good idea. > **[The Decades-Old Gun Ban That's Still On The Books](https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2013/01/18/169526687/the-decades-old-gun-ban-thats-still-on-the-books)** > > In 1986, Congress passed a ban on buying and selling machine guns made from then on — with the blessing of none other than the National Rifle Association. Gun law experts say the law was more significant than it seemed at the time. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/32 "2020-10-07T07:30:05Z")
Problem is that right now the National Russian, I mean National Rifle Association is imploding on corruption. And most people (including Republicans) are in favor of more control or bans of assault weapons. > **[Poll: Most Republicans support assault weapons ban, despite Trump saying 'no...](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/07/poll-most-voters-support-assault-weapons-ban-1452586)** > > Trump campaigned in 2016 on his strong support for the Second Amendment. But the poll found that more than half of GOP voters said they would support stricter gun laws after the recent shootings. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/33 "2020-10-07T07:34:43Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > That was for full automatic weapons in 1986. That is exactly what they want to do with semi-automatic as well. I take it you did not research this and are just posting based on your own political positions. But that is not the point of this thread or my response to it, so your hijacking is unwarranted. My point is when they try this there certainly will be a repeat of 1994. [As president, Biden will pursue legislation to regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act.](https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/) [https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/](https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/34 "2020-10-07T07:53:17Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > That is exactly what they want to do with semi-automatic as well. I take it you did not research this and are just posting based on your own political positions. [Bugs Bunny]Too late to the draw Yosemite Sam! [/BB] I guess you really did skip what even most Republicans think about it nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/35 "2020-10-07T10:18:41Z")
'10 happened because of low Democratic turnout. If Biden can keep some excitement among the Dems, which Obama screwed up, then hopefully they’ll avoid it. But who knows this early. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/36 "2020-10-07T10:59:08Z")
pkbites, I agree with you that Republicans should go all next-level extra about Bidens Gonna Take Yer Guns. With the National Rifle Association on the verge of dissolution, the incredible gun control energy among millennials, and the fact that the president is killing people every day through his misinformation about a deadly pandemic, I can hardly think of a better gift that Republicans could give to Democrats. I know it’s your pet issue. What you don’t seem to realize is how few people’s pet issue it is. If I were to offer analogous political advice, I’d be telling Democrats to call for the abolition of prisons, because it’s so obviously the right thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/37 "2020-10-07T11:07:54Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I guess you really did skip what even most Republicans think about it nowadays. Which is…? Provide a cite, please. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/38 "2020-10-07T11:50:13Z")
Your cite didn’t show up on my phone first time around. But it’s still meaningless. Which we’ll see in 2022, keeping to the OP’s inquirery. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/39 "2020-10-07T12:06:08Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Which we’ll see in 2022, We can see now. What you are talking about is nonsense. If Republicans are in charge they could outright ban all guns just like they did with bump stocks. Despite their repeated promises not to restrict gun ownership they broke that promise without hesitation just like all their other promises. If you value any part of the constitution you should realize only the Democrats will protect your rights. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336/40 "2020-10-07T13:29:27Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > If Republicans are in charge they could outright ban all guns just like they did with bump stocks. Actually “they” didn’t. The BATFE did, after decades of saying the devices were perfectly legal. SCOTUS refused to take up the issue because Roberts cannot be trusted. We will see what we will see in 2022. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-midterms-after-a-biden-win-can-democrats-avoid-1994-and-2010-part-3/922336.md?page=3)