# 2022 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [February 2, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807 "2022-02-02T17:30:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/21 "2022-02-02T23:11:29Z")
If the Hall takes its name seriously, the MC5 and the New York Dolls should be in. They never sold (which is, I suppose, still an important aspect for American awards and such, I’m looking at you, Grammys), but they were pivotal bands and a lot of what came after, many bands that are already in the RHOF, was influenced by them. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/22 "2022-02-03T00:12:04Z")
I wonder if “Pat Benatar” could be inducted as a band. Neil Girardo is, at least, as responsible for the success of that act as Pat is. ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/23 "2022-02-03T00:13:23Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > What did Kate Bush do other than that terrible, awful, very bad Running Up that Hill song? God, I hate that song. > [@Author\_Balk](#): > > Kate Bush might be in my top 10 artists. If you don’t like Running Up that Hill, you probably won’t like her other songs. Yeah, Kate put out some epic stuff. I think she has such an expressive, powerful voice…but maybe you love her or hate her. Hit-wise? As noted she duetted with Peter Gabriel on Don’t Give Up. Wikipedia says Rubberband Girl reached #88. I heard once that “Rock around the Clock” was considered the first Rock and Roll song. I don’t know what a lot of these have in common. David Gilmour discovered her, played the solo on “Love and Anger,” a favorite track. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1w0I4FIkVhg/hqdefault.jpg "Kate Bush - Love and Anger") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w0I4FIkVhg) In case anybody missed the wrath of Steve Miller in 2016: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/umI7MkgwS7M/maxresdefault.jpg "STEVE MILLER GOES OFF ON ROCK HALL AFTER INDUCTION, CHEAP TRICK DURING SPEECH") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umI7MkgwS7M) ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/24 "2022-02-03T00:42:28Z")
Dolly says “It takes a lot of money to look this cheap” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/25 "2022-02-03T00:57:59Z")
I’m not going to say anybody on this list isn’t talented, but half of these nominees are like inducting a soccer player into the Baseball Hall of Fame. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/26 "2022-02-03T01:06:31Z")
> [@lobotomyboy63](#): > > I heard once that “Rock around the Clock” was considered the first Rock and Roll song. I don’t know what a lot of these have in common. actually, rocket 88’ by ike turner is … ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/27 "2022-02-03T01:22:28Z")
> [@nightshadea](#): > > actually, rocket 88’ by ike turner is … Better don’t open that can of worms. This question will still be disputed for hundreds of years from now. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/28 "2022-02-03T01:24:59Z")
IMO, who _should_ get in: - **Beck** : _Odelay_ blew my mind when it came out, with such a bizarre mix of styles that somehow worked. _Guero_ was fantastic. _Sea Change_ is beautiful. And since then, he’s had what, 5 albums in the top 10? He should be a shoe-in. - **DEVO** : influence, popularity - it’s unfathomable that they weren’t a first-time pick. - **Duran Duran** : I initially dismissed them as a boy band getting by on looks, not talent. I was very wrong. - **MC5** : even if you’ve never heard of them, their influence is huge And who I really want to get in because their music is amazing and groundbreaking, but I can’t justify the “rock and roll” part for them: - Dolly Parton - A Tribe Called Quest ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/29 "2022-02-03T01:35:04Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > **Beck** : _Odelay_ blew my mind when it came out, with such a bizarre mix of styles that somehow worked. _Guero_ was fantastic. _Sea Change_ is beautiful. And since then, he’s had what, 5 albums in the top 10? He should be a shoe-in. I agree, and I too was blown away by “Odelay”. “Loser” had left me a little unimpressed, I thought of it as a novelty rap song by a white slacker, but with “Odelay” I became a fan. “Guero” and “Sea Change” are fantastic, but I like “Mutations” and “Midnite Vultures” just the same. He’s also a very good live act, seen him three times (though granted, this was more than twenty years ago). And besides the discussion who can count as rock’n’roll, Beck who constructs his music from multiple styles has enough of a rock foundation to count. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/30 "2022-02-03T01:52:22Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > I wonder if “Pat Benatar” could be inducted as a band. Neil Girardo is, at least, as responsible for the success of that act as Pat is. Ugh. Couldn’t stand her in the day, and her stuff hasn’t grown on me. Histrionic formula. YMMV. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/31 "2022-02-03T01:59:44Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > Ugh. Couldn’t stand her in the day, and her stuff hasn’t grown on me. Histrionic formula. In case you’ve never heard the original, Lowen and Navarro [“We Belong.”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7SWRCpbfro) She ruined it IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/32 "2022-02-03T02:00:06Z")
I once liked her, but got over it. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/33 "2022-02-03T02:02:22Z")
> [@lobotomyboy63](#): > > > [@Akaj](#): > > > > Ugh. Couldn’t stand her in the day, and her stuff hasn’t grown on me. Histrionic formula. > > In case you’ve never heard the original, Lowen and Navarro [“We Belong.”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7SWRCpbfro) She ruined it IMO. I’d never heard that – thanks! ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/34 "2022-02-03T02:12:04Z")
[side question]: what happens after the nominees are announced? Who picks the actual entries? Is there a committee or such, or a public vote? [/sq] ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/35 "2022-02-03T02:13:55Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > I’d never heard that – thanks! Totally different vibe, isn’t it? At 1:15 in this bilingual version, they break into a Spanish part. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/IWVt82RqjKc/hqdefault.jpg "Lowen & Navarro - We Belong (Bilingual)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWVt82RqjKc) If women got some girl power from Pat’s music, great. But musically she didn’t honor the power of this song IMO. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/36 "2022-02-03T02:36:59Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > [side question]: what happens after the nominees are announced? Who picks the actual entries? Is there a committee or such, or a public vote? [/sq] The vote is done by a committee (over a thousand thousand people, I believe) who work in the industry – musicians, producers, music journalists, etc. There is also a “fan vote,” which is held online, but the fans’ top selections account for **one** ballot out of the thousand-plus total. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/37 "2022-02-03T02:55:37Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > There is also a “fan vote,” which is held online, but the fans’ top selections account for **one** ballot out of the thousand-plus total. Thanks! You mean the whole fan vote is worth one vote of a committee member out of thousands? That’s nuts. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/38 "2022-02-03T02:55:39Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > (over a thousand thousand people, I believe) That should be “over a thousand people.” _facepalm_ ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/39 "2022-02-03T02:56:04Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Thanks! You mean the whole fan vote is worth one vote of a committee member? That’s nuts. This is exactly the case. And, there was no fan vote at all until a decade or so ago. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/958807/40 "2022-02-03T05:58:06Z")
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