# 2022 US Senate Races

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 6, 2020, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327 "2020-10-06T10:26:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/342 "2021-12-01T13:13:32Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Doctor Oz running for GOP Senate nomination in PA Other than name recognition, I don’t see what he brings to the table. Why do celebrities think they need to start with the higher offices rather than cut their political teeth on a lesser job?

That’s not good news 😢. Assuming he wins the Republican primary, he’ll probably win a general election easily.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/343 "2021-12-01T16:01:28Z")

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I wouldn’t be so sure of that. Democrats would have a field day with Oz’s long history of promoting quackery, and his saying that an extra 2-3% Covid-19 mortality resulting from sending kids back to school during the pandemic represented an “appetizing” opportunity.

> **[Dr. Oz is running for US Senate in Pennsylvania. Here are 8 times he's made...](https://www.businessinsider.com/dr-oz-false-misleading-baseless-medical-claims-coronavirus-2020-4#a-strawberry-and-baking-soda-mixture-can-whiten-teeth-oz-said-8)**
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> Dr. Oz has an Ivy-League medical degree, the trust of President Donald Trump, and a history of supporting misleading or downright false claims.

His Democratic opponent could inquire during debates about Oz saying that our astrological signs predict our health.

> **[The Dr. Oz Show Archives](https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/tag/the-dr-oz-show/)**

With the fallout from his quack escapades, I doubt that Oprah Winfrey (on whose show Oz was featured numerous times) would campaign for him.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/344 "2021-12-01T16:02:26Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Regardless of campaign strategy, it’s hard to actually do the job as a US Senator unless you’ve spent some time in state or local governments and have a feel for how governing actually works.

I’m not sure this is true. I’m not even sure how one would determine if it was true.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/345 "2021-12-01T18:26:39Z")

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I tend to agree. Setting aside what it even means to be “effective” as a Senator, there are plenty of examples of Senators who had little or no previous governmental experience who had productive careers. Joe Biden only had two years as a county commissioner before serving 36 years as a Senator. Orrin Hatch had no previous governmental experience before serving in the Senate for 42 years.

One thing I’ve heard former Governors elected to the Senate talk about is how _little_ their governing experience prepared them for the chamber. You just can’t wield power as one of 100 Senators the same way you can as a state’s top executive. Most of them seem to hate it, and Chris Sununu basically said this was why he wasn’t running for Senate in NH.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/346 "2021-12-01T23:21:16Z")

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Dr. Oz doesn’t live in pa. I’m a bit baffled on how he can run for senator as a non-resident.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/347 "2021-12-02T00:39:49Z")

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There is so much better stuff out there to attack this guy for that his Democratic opponent shouldn’t waste time on the carpetbagger theme.

As for the GOP nomination, my guess is that it will go to whomever Trump endorses, especial if there are more than two halfway viable candidates.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/348 "2021-12-02T02:48:07Z")

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Ah, found out that dr oz uses a relative’s address in pa for voting. Hhhhhm, that doesn’t seem dodgy at all, eh…

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/349 "2021-12-02T03:01:49Z")

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Isn’t it just like Hillary Clinton running for Senator of New York? Or Scott Brown running for Senator in New Hampshire?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/350 "2021-12-02T03:06:52Z")

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Or Bobby Kennedy running for Senator of New York?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/351 "2021-12-02T03:19:03Z")

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Scott Brown owned a home in New Hampshire for close to 20 years before making it his primary residence and registering to vote in the state. So he had some history there.

HRC bought a home in November of '99 and didn’t announce her candidacy until February of 2000. She was also basically recruited by some of the most prominent individuals in the NY Democratic Party.

Oz hasn’t purchased a home and to my knowledge there is no one in the entire state of Ohio, GOP official or not, who has encouraged him in any way to run.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/352 "2021-12-02T03:28:07Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Isn’t it just like Hillary Clinton running for Senator of New York?

The Clintons bought a house in 1999, about a year before the election, so Hillary could establish residency.

No idea about Brown or Bobby Kennedy.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/353 "2021-12-02T18:07:55Z")

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Dick Cheney also had to change his residency before the 2000 election so that he and Bush wouldn’t both be residents of Texas (under the Constitution, this meant that Texas would not have been able to cast its electors for both).

I don’t know the specifics of Pennsylvania residency requirements, but usually it’s not very burdensome. I don’t think this will be a legal hurdle for Oz, although it could be politically damaging.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/354 "2021-12-03T00:48:50Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Isn’t it just like Hillary Clinton running for Senator of New York? Or Scott Brown running for Senator in New Hampshire?

Whether it is or isn’t, I can’t see making my voting decision, for U.S. Senator, on which candidate is the genuine Pennsylvanian. And I won’t advise anyone else to base their vote on such trivia.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/355 "2021-12-09T17:27:13Z")

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Senators are supposed to have more of a national focus, but I can see voting against someone who is just using a state has a convenient launch pad as opposed to having any real interest in the problems affecting the people he is representing.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/356 "2021-12-09T17:32:48Z")

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Certainly. I would always favor a candidate motivated by public service rather than mere ambition.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/357 "2021-12-10T00:21:36Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Certainly. I would always favor a candidate motivated by public service rather than mere ambition.

Until the sad day someone invents a gadget to read the inner thoughts of others, this is almost completely unknowable. And in as much as it is now slightly knowable, it would lead to voting for rich people who don’t need the salary.

It is common, or at least used to be, for British parliamentary candidates to run from a constituency they can win in, even if they never lived there. They learn about their constituency as they go and then, if otherwise good politicians, do fine.

If you are a Democrat, consider:

[Is Hillary Clinton a New Yorker?](https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/06/12/413974704/is-hillary-clinton-a-new-yorker)

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> If you are a Democrat, when Hillary Clinton first came to New York to run, longtime political reporter Gabe Pressman of WNBC asked her if she didn’t have a lot of chutzpah to be running for the U.S. Senate from New York. She said no — but New Yorkers were pretty clear.
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> “Hillary? Where did she come from? Washington, where they made a mess,” was one comment from back in 2000. The only thing missing from that sentence was, fughedaboutit!

If a normally Democratic New Yorker here tells me that they voted for Spencer against Clinton because the Republican Senate candidate was a long-time local New Your politician – and local commitment is crucial – I will accept their sincerity. But I still won’t agree. .

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/358 "2021-12-10T02:26:51Z")

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While Barack Hussein Obama II did win Pennsylvania twice, Mehmet Oz’s first name is going to hurt him a bit. And the state’s leading newspaper is now starting to use it:

[Two little letters that could skew the Pa. Senate race](https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/dr-oz-senate-pennsylvania-20211208.html)

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> The day after Oz announced his candidacy, The Inquirer’s front-page headline, photo caption, and first sentence all referred to _Dr. Oz_ . That goes against the paper’s style guide, which reads: “Do not use Dr. on first reference for anyone with the title, whether they are a medical doctor or have a doctorate in a nonmedical field, to avoid complaints of unequal treatment from individuals who worked hard to achieve doctorates in nonmedical fields.” It specifies just two exceptions: obituaries, and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
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> Dr. J is gonna be mad. . . .
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> After The Inquirer ran _Dr._ in its headline, the paper’s style committee determined that doing so was the wrong call.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/359 "2021-12-10T02:54:21Z")

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One more on Oz. [This](https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/sources-dr-oz-plans-run-senate-seat-pennsylvania-81472847) is inconsistent with the Wikipedia MitraValve article AKA not accurate:

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> In his video message, he touts his entrepreneurship, saying he “invented a heart valve that saves thousands of lives.”

He did apparently patent a [valve repair device](https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-new-indication-valve-repair-device-treat-certain-heart-failure-patients-mitral). Not the same as a valve.

The Democrats better make sure they don’t nominate someone who has this tiny gadget in them.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/360 "2021-12-10T03:43:43Z")

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correction to last post – MitraClip, not MitraValve!

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2022-us-senate-races/922327/361 "2021-12-13T15:57:43Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Certainly. I would always favor a candidate motivated by public service rather than mere ambition.

As far as I can tell that would apply to one, maybe two at most, of all of our previous presidents (Washington and Carter). You’ll be sitting out a lot of elections, or holding your nose for the candidate you do end up voting for, based on that standard.

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