# 2023-24 Ski and Snowboard Thread - Moguls and Sitzmarks

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** olympic-sports-track\
**Created:** [October 10, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363 "2023-10-10T18:39:56Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/1 "2023-10-10T18:39:56Z")

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First snow is being reported in a bunch of places, it’s time to think snow.

We bought Indy Passes again this year, and today they announced 50 new resorts but only a few are really of interest to us. We also bought a few Epic day passes at the lowest tier so we can ski with my sister-in-law at Sunapee. No big western trip for us this year, just a week up in Maine for Feb break.

With some physical issues our plan is just to ski on better ski days, not trying to hit something every weekend like we did the last few years.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/2 "2023-10-10T18:49:29Z")

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The long-term forecast for the NW is dire, but the track record of LT forecasts sucks, so I’m determined to be hopeful. I have a full pass to Bridger which also gives me some tix at Alta and Targhee. Heading to BC the first week of march and again the 2nd week of April. Thinking about new boots. I like how my Salomons ski, but getting them off when it’s below 10 degrees really really sucks.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/3 "2023-10-10T19:48:22Z")

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Got an Epic pass again this season, limited to Tahoe. But, there is a chance for an excursion to CO so we’ll see if that comes together. I’d really like to ski Mammoth this winter as well. Big plans, I know, but we’ll see how things go. I really need some new(er) gear, too.

There is a car down the street with ski racks on year-round (it’s a cruel juxtaposition when it’s 108F); an optimist, I’d say.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/4 "2023-10-11T18:07:03Z")

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Snowed around Tahoe some last night. Just enough to get you excited. Not going to stay, I think.

> [@snowthx](#):
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> I really need some new(er) gear, too.

Why??? 😄

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/5 "2023-10-11T18:09:25Z")

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Just ripped my quadriceps right off this morning. Surgery Friday. I think I’ll still get to ski, but not opening day.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/6 "2023-10-11T19:40:29Z")

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Yikes! Sorry to hear that. I broke my leg this summer but it was an easy recovery, I should be ready for ski season.

On a sad note for NH skiers, Black Mountain in Jackson NH announced they are not opening this season, and may be closed for good.

> **[Black Mountain](https://www.facebook.com/BlackMtnNH)**
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> Black Mountain, Jackson, New Hampshire. 7,961 likes · 9 talking about this · 15,265 were here. Classic New England Skiing Since 1935.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/7 "2023-10-11T21:33:21Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Why??? 😄

Hah! I know you prefer tried-and-trued! All my hardware is probably 10-15 years old - I don’t think any shop would work on any of bindings at this point. My newest stuff is a helmet and goggles from 3 years ago, and everything else is at least a decade old.

If anyone here makes it out to Heavenly this season, Gato and I will be holding lessons: Meet at the top of Gunbarrel - Mogul lessons (Gato) to the left, Sitzmarks (snowthx) to the right…🙃

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/8 "2023-10-11T22:10:42Z")

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Thanks–sounds more like a 4-6 month recovery. Gonna be a long winter.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/9 "2023-10-12T00:26:27Z")

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I bit the bullet and bought my pass to Cooper this winter. Still gives me some days at Monarch and other smaller mountains, but I think I prefer the drive to Cooper better. Definitely helps that my friends have a cabin right there in Leadville, so I can drive up Friday night and hit the slopes fresh Saturday morning. This year, I get three days at Loveland as well, so that’s nice.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/10 "2023-10-12T02:40:04Z")

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I’m really harding on me mounting the New Old Stock Look N-77’s on the ‘In Wrapper’ Dymamic Vr 27’s I got stood up in the corner of the front door.

Is that New Equipment?

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/11 "2023-10-25T00:39:45Z")

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First ski area to “operate” in North America this season is Ski Ward, a tiny hill near us that is showing off their new snowmaking equipment. Pretty tiny amount of terrain, served by the magic carpet, but snow is snow.

> **[Massachusetts Ski Area Becomes First In North America To Open For Season](https://unofficialnetworks.com/2023/10/23/ski-ward-first-to-open/)**
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> Arapahoe Basin, Keystone, Killington, and Wild Mountain were beaten by a small ski area in Shrewsbury, Massachusetts.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/12 "2023-10-25T13:19:52Z")

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It’s snowing currently in MT. Suddenly winter–highs in the 20’s and lows single digits for at least 5 days.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/13 "2023-10-30T14:43:03Z")

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ABasin opened yesterday for the season. Check out the lift line at the end of the run.

> **[Colorado's First Ski Resort is Open - Arapahoe Basin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcpXyiBP06M%5C)**
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> Colorado is now open thanks to Arapahoe Basin! ..........................👇🏼Stickers and Merch👇🏼 Remember to grab Evolution Stickers and Merch here: https...

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/14 "2023-10-30T16:04:05Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Check out the lift line at the end of the run.

Yeah, FTS!!

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/15 "2023-11-01T12:38:39Z")

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All the major mountains in New England are making snow now, and a little natural has started accumulating up north. It’s happening.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/16 "2023-11-01T18:33:13Z")

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Well, Winter did a head-fake and went the other way. Mid 60’s in Tahoe. More Beach than Ski.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/17 "2023-11-02T00:42:31Z")

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Killington is opening on Friday Nov 3, so ski season is starting for real in the East.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/18 "2023-11-11T17:58:54Z")

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Looks like our first ski trip will be in early December, probably skiing the White Ribbon of Death up at Wildcat while attending a 60th birthday party.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/19 "2023-11-11T18:18:23Z")

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I’m looking forward to ski season after a catastrophic season-ending ski accident last February. I did the equivalent (on skis) of going over the handlebars of a mountain bike on a steep downhill slope and landed directly on my left shoulder, which separated my shoulder. I had to get surgery and am still going through physical therapy, though my orthopedic surgeon says I am pretty much fully healed. (The therapy is to work on strength and regaining full range of motion because the shoulder was immobilized for so long.)

Anyway, in the interest of “getting back on the horse,” I got an Epic Pass (with the veteran’s discount) and am signed up for several ski trips, including a trip with my ski club to Andorra!

I am a little nervous about skiing again though, and I really don’t want a repeat of last season’s injury. So I expect I will take it slow and easy.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/20 "2023-11-11T18:28:06Z")

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I separated my shoulder 2 years ago (by going over the handlebars) but it wasn’t bad enough for surgery. My PT went well and although it’s still a bit wonky I had no problems skiing on it last year. I asked my ortho Dr about protecting my shoulder with activities and he said “Live your life. There’s little you can do to protect the shoulder and still participate in skiing and biking. If you mess it up, we’ll fix it with surgery.”

Obviously, your injury was more severe than mine. If I had surgery I’m not sure how I’d react.

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