# 2023-24 Ski and Snowboard Thread - Moguls and Sitzmarks **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** olympic-sports-track\ **Created:** [October 10, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363 "2023-10-10T18:39:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/21 "2023-11-11T18:54:41Z")
Sounds like good advice! I really don’t want to stop skiing or biking either. Even with the injury, I think the benefits I have received (including being active and staying in shape) have [mostly] outweighed the cost. ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/22 "2023-11-11T19:49:52Z")
I think after I recover from my injury I’ll take a couple of private lessons, even though I’ve been skiing for 47 years. I’ve lost a lot of confidence. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/23 "2023-11-13T02:45:00Z")
Earlier tonight we saw this year’s Warren Miller film **All Time** which was fun, but I really felt like I’ve lost the appetite for these films over time. I don’t relate to the type of skiing shown in most of the clips anymore. Just the powder shots. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/24 "2023-11-13T14:24:57Z")
[Brapski3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0esrcIyxQpc) . Try this one on for size–a lot of new school, but some unbelievable skiing in the Utah red rock desert that is a once-in-a-lifetime shot–only last winter. “Crazy” Karl is the guy who dropped a switch 540 in the King and Queen of Corbetts a few years ago. Trigger alert (if the title didn’t clue you in)–they use snowmobiles. Only 25 minutes long. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/25 "2023-11-13T17:36:05Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Earlier tonight we saw this year’s Warren Miller film **All Time** which was fun, but I really felt like I’ve lost the appetite for these films over time. Ya know, I’ve always disliked Warren Miller films. I find the old ones Elitist and mean-spirited to beginners, and the newer ones are just unrelatable. Watching other people ski, unless in competition, is something I have no interest in. They usually have some pretty good music though. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/26 "2023-11-13T17:42:06Z")
I used to go to the Warren Miller show each season with some friends to help get amped for the upcoming season, but I haven’t been to one of the shows in probably 10 years. > [@Gatopescado](#): > > I find the old ones Elitist and mean-spirited to beginners, and the newer ones are just unrelatable. That’s a good way to describe it. I am not into hucking myself off cliffs, or heli-skiing, and by the time I usually get on the mountain all the powder has been shredded to death anyway. Unrelatable is right-on. Now, I do watch expert bump skiers in hopes I can learn something! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/27 "2023-11-13T23:12:08Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > the newer ones are just unrelatable That’s actually what I liked about them. If ski on the right day, I can carve powder at some North American resort. Those parts of the movie weren’t too interesting. I went to see the crazy and unusual stuff, like helicopter skiing in Alaska, old Soviet ski resorts, and skiing down Kilimanjaro. Of course, it doesn’t take long for that to get pretty boring to watch, too. It’s definitely been 15+ years since I’ve seen one. In Boulder occasionally people from the movies would be at the showing. That could have been fun, but it wasn’t. It was never a Q&A or pausing the movie to tell stories. It was just some famous skier I’d never heard of telling us, “we had lots of fun making this, now enjoy the show!” ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/28 "2023-11-14T00:22:20Z")
I can show you the ‘secret’ parking places. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/29 "2023-11-14T12:40:20Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > On a sad note for NH skiers, Black Mountain in Jackson NH announced they are not opening this season, and may be closed for good. I forgot to come back to this story, but Indy Pass has given Black enough money to open this season while they look for a buyer. We’re definitely hitting Black before the year is over. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/30 "2023-12-04T14:46:04Z")
We went to Mammoth the week before Thanksgiving and then Big Bear this past weekend. Both were crowded with only a few runs open. Not great skiing, but hey got out of the house. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/31 "2023-12-10T14:17:23Z")
First day on snow at Wildcat yesterday. Surprisingly good early season conditions with sone natural snow trails open. My (still) broken leg did good, not great, and we skied for 3 hours. Views were spectacular. [![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ADCreHf4zVGrkWOS9SOQ9Oyb7XqH7znj3eReB8cYkkB1o55sjQs-yM3--BxpmMCjVGDr8FsJthhXSpIgKTZEsYMuUqsDgLFF2pSBg2HQlm2PQ5drnMVsRMZc=w600-h315-p-k "New item by David Metsky") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/KaqLDxn5FgJgyW99A) [![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ADCreHf_ctbNk1K7gPWb_LwaUqMo-uCtk-bX6N22qd5DyWdIY1Q_5nDJ98_71Kbk2LgcHYPN-5jbnpTycmFuX6N0Bj11It2p86kUlSIzLGpCYRLiQaQqhzyH=w600-h315-p-k "New item by David Metsky") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/tsH6c8ZbKi3QR2pM6) ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/32 "2023-12-20T13:23:06Z")
Oof, the east coast mountains took an awful hit this past weekend. Torrential rains wiped out a lot of the snow base, but the runoff did significant damage to roads and infrastructure at many ski areas. Some places are unreachable right now and will remain closed for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/33 "2023-12-20T16:16:22Z")
This is the main/only road access to the Jordan Grand Hotel at Sunday River, ME. Or it was. > **[New England ski resort to close Tuesday amid flash flooding damage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeyDeOunf5M%2F)** > > One of New England's biggest ski resorts announced it will be closed on Tuesday following flash flooding that caused damage around the resort.Subscribe to WC... ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/34 "2023-12-20T16:20:35Z")
Sugarloaf is in the same situation. Brutal. We have no snow other than manmade, but at least it’s not raining! Not that it matters to me since I’m injured. Bridger refunded my non-refundable pass yesterday, which is great and very depressing at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/35 "2023-12-20T16:24:51Z")
SoCal is getting the first significant precipitation since August. It’s rain at the moment, but the snowline is expected to drop to 7000ft tonight. Probably not enough to open up all the runs, but the ones with the artificial base will be much better with some real snow on top. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/36 "2023-12-20T19:26:28Z")
> [@Tride](#): > > Bridger refunded my non-refundable pass yesterday, Sorry to hear about the injury. I have to ask however, how in the Holy Houdini did you pull this off??? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/37 "2023-12-20T19:36:04Z")
Big Moose Mountain in Maine, a small community run area, suffered significant damage to their snow-making infrastructure, including losing their snow-making pond. They won’t be able to make any snow this season. ☹ Sunday River will open again on Saturday, but only to seasons pass holders and people who have already purchased tickets. They will have limited terrain open, as there is some lift damage and severe erosion. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/38 "2023-12-20T19:41:22Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > This is the main/only road access to the Jordan Grand Hotel at Sunday River, ME. Or it was. > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeyDeOunf5M/](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeyDeOunf5M/) Crap, that stinks. I’m supposed to be staying in that hotel in a month. I just mailed the final payment this morning to my ski club. And I have a trip to Sugarloaf planned for the second week of January. Here’s hoping they can recover in the coming weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/39 "2023-12-20T19:42:49Z")
They’ve put up a temporary bridge already, and people will be staying there this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363/40 "2023-12-20T19:59:24Z")
You ask nicely and get a Drs. note–they evaluate the requests case by case. Bridger is a non-profit, not corporate, so much more community oriented. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-24-ski-and-snowboard-thread-moguls-and-sitzmarks/991363.md?page=3)