# 2023/4 NCAA Football playoffs

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [October 22, 2023, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907 "2023-10-22T03:16:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/161 "2024-01-02T04:13:01Z")

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Very efficient drive for the Huskies to start the second half, including the first 3rd down they’ve converted.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/162 "2024-01-02T05:12:10Z")

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Game not over juuuuust yet, but the Huskies are simply going to march downfield and make it 42-28 and put the Horns to bed.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/163 "2024-01-02T05:15:59Z")

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How many Texas fans are asking, “Who the Hell is Westover?!”

ETA: First and Goal. Field goal puts it away but let’s get the touchdown.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/164 "2024-01-02T05:22:27Z")

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Texas just looks overmatched.

The Huskies aren’t #2 by accident.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/165 "2024-01-02T05:26:41Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> The Huskies aren’t #2 by accident.

Not directed to anyone in this thread.  
Remind me again how Washington is not one of the 4 best teams in the nation.  
Remind me again how Washington was the underdawg against Texas, both in Vegas and in peoples’ mind.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/166 "2024-01-02T05:43:53Z")

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Dang, Huskies should have kneeled, they’re making this a real game with that shit luck.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/167 "2024-01-02T05:47:34Z")

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Well this is quite an interesting end to the game.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/168 "2024-01-02T05:49:56Z")

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4th and goal with 1 second. FFS

ETA: And an incomplete pass. Perfect pass coverage.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/169 "2024-01-02T05:50:44Z")

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Wow, Texas almost pulled that off! Perfect defensive swat.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/170 "2024-01-02T05:54:47Z")

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perfect route  
perfect pass  
perfect defense  
You couldn’t ask for a better way to finish a game.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/171 "2024-01-02T06:35:07Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Dang, Huskies should have kneeled

I was thinking the same. Texas only had one time out. They could have killed that clock with a little imagination.

Oh well. Alls well that ends well.

Fuck Texas. Double Fuck Alabama.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/172 "2024-01-02T07:09:12Z")

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I had no dog in this fight whatsoever, but I have no sympathy for the losers. They were both good games, which is all I cared about. A real entertaining day of football.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/173 "2024-01-02T07:24:43Z")

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One thing the announcers mentioned as the Longhorns were trying to mount a last minute comeback was that statistically, UW had one of the worst pass defenses in college football. Those numbers were heavily skewed because their opponents were frequently behind in games and had to pass the ball often to catch up. So they likely weren’t as bad as the numbers suggest.

Still, it was definitely not a strength and could easily be pointed to as one of, if not their biggest weakness. So it’s impressive that they won in the end by a couple of absolutely critical pass defenses at the goal line, specifically the last play of the game.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/174 "2024-01-03T02:00:43Z")

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I think that instead of an injured player being an automatic time out if the clock is running you roll back the clock to the end of the last play and reset the play clock. Both start on the whistle.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/175 "2024-01-03T20:02:23Z")

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Except for “roll back the clock to the end of the last play,” that is the rule - after an injury time-out, the clock restarts on the whistle, unless it was stopped for another reason. That is, unless you are referring to the ten-second runoff rule where, if the clock is stopped for an injury in the final minute of a half, the other team can ask for a 10-second runoff, which the injured player’s team can negate by calling one of its charged time-outs. I think this was added to prevent too many teams from faking injuries when they didn’t have any time-outs left.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/176 "2024-01-03T20:05:27Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> That is, unless you are referring to the ten-second runoff rule where, if the clock is stopped for an injury in the final minute of a half, the other team can ask for a 10-second runoff, which the injured player’s team can negate by calling one of its charged time-outs.

For obvious reasons, Texas declined the runoff option at the end of the Sugar Bowl.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/177 "2024-01-03T20:13:14Z")

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I’m referring to it being a running play and the clock did not start until the snap. Shouldn’t it had been started on the whistle?

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/178 "2024-01-03T21:02:57Z")

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From the [NCAA rule book](https://rulebook.github.io/en/rules/3/sections/3/#:~:text=If%20there%20is%20a%2010,helmets%20come%20off%20opposing%20players.):

If the player injury is the only reason for stopping the clock (other than his or a teammate’s helmet coming off, Rule 3-3-9) with less than one minute in the half, the opponent has the option of a 10-second runoff.

1. The play clock will be set at 40 seconds for an injury to a player of the defensive team and at 25 seconds for an injury to a player of the offensive team (Rule 3-2-4-c-4).
2. If there is a 10-second runoff the game clock will start on the referee’s signal. **If there is no 10-second runoff the game clock will start on the snap.**

My bold.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/179 "2024-01-03T22:36:33Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> 1. If there is a 10-second runoff the game clock will start on the referee’s signal. **If there is no 10-second runoff the game clock will start on the snap.**
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> My bold.

thanks

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-4-ncaa-football-playoffs/991907/180 "2024-01-08T16:20:40Z")

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Predictions for tonight?  
Washington 35 Michigan 31

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