# 2023 Oscars

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [March 12, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066 "2023-03-12T15:23:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/121 "2023-03-13T03:18:36Z")

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Looks like a sweep is abuilding…

Best Editing, Best Original Screenplay, Best Supporting Actor, Best Supporting Actress, Best Director, Yeoh is almost a lock for Best Actress, and it doesn’t look like _Banshees_ has gotten much love from the voters so far and _All Quiet_ is in the unfortunate position of offering voters an alternative vote (Best International Feature), so Best Picture is very likely.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/122 "2023-03-13T03:22:12Z")

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> [@peccavi](#):
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> Yeoh is almost a lock for Best Actress

The betting had Yeoh as the only one of the 6 that wasn’t odds-on favorite, with Cate Blanchett in with a good chance. I don’t know if the two she has already weighs against her.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/123 "2023-03-13T03:23:34Z")

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Brendan Fraser in _The Whale_, Best Lead Actor

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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/124 "2023-03-13T03:25:18Z")

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Well, I did say _almost_ a lock…

But you’re right, it’s going to be between Yeoh and Blanchett.

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**Author:** ![superwombat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superwombat/32/16616_2.png) [@superwombat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superwombat)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/125 "2023-03-13T03:28:55Z")

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I’m so, so happy for him.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/126 "2023-03-13T03:29:51Z")

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I thought Ana de Armas’ performance as Marilyn Monroe was tremendous. While watching it I was sure she’d win.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/127 "2023-03-13T03:33:19Z")

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So everyone’s trying to guess who’s inside the bear? Will Smith, obviously.

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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/128 "2023-03-13T03:34:48Z")

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On it’s Wikipedia page, EEAAO is described as “the most awarded film of all-time”. Quite a claim.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/129 "2023-03-13T03:37:16Z")

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> [@peccavi](#):
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> EEAAO is described as “the most awarded film of all-time”

Is there an award for that?

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/130 "2023-03-13T03:41:53Z")

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Now that was a moment: Ke Huy Quan and Harrison Ford face-to-face, while Spielberg looks on, smiling.

**Commasense** , I thought she’d win too, especially since “Hollywood loves movies about itself!” is pretty reliable Oscar bait.

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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/131 "2023-03-13T03:48:38Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> **Commasense** , I thought she’d win too, especially since “Hollywood loves movies about itself!” is pretty reliable Oscar bait.

The movie she was in wasn’t much of a box office success and it wasn’t much loved by critics, that double whammy plus being a new face up against two veteran actresses, one of whom is automatically considered a front runner if nominated and the other with the “it’s about time” aura, makes a big hill to climb to a win.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/132 "2023-03-13T03:56:42Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> **Commasense** , I thought she’d win too, especially since “Hollywood loves movies about itself!” is pretty reliable Oscar bait.

Which is also why I thought _The Fabelmans_ had a pretty good chance for best picture or director, since it may be the last film by one of the top directors of all time.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/133 "2023-03-13T03:58:12Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Either I’m being whooshed or you’re mistaken. As I [mentioned above](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/42), sitting between Michelle Yeoh and Jamie is Jean Todt, Yeoh’s husband.

I’m mistaken and thank you for the correction.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/134 "2023-03-13T04:00:10Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Either I’m being whooshed or you’re mistaken. As I [mentioned above](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/42), sitting between Michelle Yeoh and Jamie is Jean Todt, Yeoh’s husband.

Who, to be fair, does look a little bit like Mel Brooks (or, at least, how Mel looked some years ago).

[![](https://apicms.thestar.com.my/uploads/images/2023/03/13/1976950.jpg) ](https://apicms.thestar.com.my/uploads/images/2023/03/13/1976950.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/135 "2023-03-13T04:00:30Z")

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You know, it’s gotta suck a little to share a first name with someone nominated in the same category, and then their name gets said.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/136 "2023-03-13T04:03:28Z")

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They do look a bit alike, so I thought you might have been joking.

It was a bit of cognitive dissonance for me to be watching the Oscars and suddenly see this familiar-looking guy that I thought I knew from F1. I couldn’t dredge up his name from my so-called brain, so I looked up Yeoh’s bio at IMDb, and that’s how I found out.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/137 "2023-03-13T04:26:13Z")

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Some final thoughts before heading out.

- “The nomination is the award” is a much abused cliche, but for some of the early career actors, just being on the ballot is going to be a substantial career boost (de Armas, Butler, Mescal, Hsu)

- India really shot itself in the foot not nominating **RRR** (though I suspect it would have been a thorny political subject)

- If you want to catch some deserving losers that emotionally compelling narratives without action scenes or CGI and don’t hit you over the head with a message (War is Bad, Sexual Harassers can be Found Anywhere, the Rich are Awful, and the Irish are a Peculiar People), then seek out _Close_, _Aftersun_, or _Women Talking_.

- _Everything Everywhere All At Once_ deserves to be seen on the biggest screen with the best sound system, in one single sitting without interruptions. (as does _RRR_)

- Whether they actually are best, tonight’s winners accurately describe what the people you depend on to make the movies you love regard as _their_ best.

- Steven Spielberg ain’t done with the Oscars. He’ll be back among the nominees in the future.

- _My Year of Dicks_ wuz robbed! Also, try to catch _Night Ride_ if you can. It is both heartwarming and wry.

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**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/138 "2023-03-13T10:30:45Z")

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It does strike me that a lot of people who hate EEAAO do so having only watched the first half an hour of it (and it has a slow start), it’s almost as if they’d made their minds up first and were hate watching it to be able to pass comment on it. Sure, SD has someone who hates even the most universally acclaimed media, but that seems a recurring theme.

Like it, don’t like it, sure, but don’t half watch it and hate it.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/139 "2023-03-13T11:25:49Z")

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I find that curious. We went into it with the best of intentions, on a strong rec from our daughter.

Are you saying that if you watch a show for 1/2 hour - and get ZERO enjoyment out of it - you ought to stick with it just in the hopes something piques your fancy another hour or so in?

We just thought, well, that’s 1/2 hour we didn’t enjoy. Let’s do something we DO enjoy.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/140 "2023-03-13T11:27:38Z")

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I’m not a big critic of who they do and do not include in the “In Memoriam”, but I will criticize this year on one point. No, not Paul Servino, though I am a bit surprised he did not warrant inclusion.

**Charlbi Dean** was literally in the Best Picture nominee Triangle of Sadness and she died very tragically, and at a very young age, not long after making it. Heath Ledge was included his year, though he was nominated that year(and won!).

Was Paul Walker in the Memoriam thing the year he died? I bet he was and Charlbi Dean’s death was quite tragic and she got entirely skipped.

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