# 2023 Oscars **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [March 12, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066 "2023-03-12T15:23:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/161 "2023-03-13T15:11:03Z")
I’ll say this about EEAAO, it was Weird. Very Weird. I loved it, had a great time watching it, and am thrilled of how many awards it pulled in, but boy it is a weird movie. If you’re not invested in the characters, I think the movie falls flat. It actually had me interested in a scene involving two stones, because I was invested in the characters represented by the stones. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/162 "2023-03-13T15:16:39Z")
I just find it refreshing that comedy and/or action films can win Best Picture now. I think that’s a big reason it doesn’t seem worthy to many people. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/163 "2023-03-13T15:25:11Z")
I’ll just chime in that after I saw EEAAO I told Mrs Cad that Ke Huy Quan deserved an Oscar for his performance. I was a little surprised by the two actress winner - not because they didn’t deserve it but I really thought it would be Michelle Williams for Best Actress and if you told me someone from EEAAO would win Best Supporting Actress I would have put my money on Stephanie Hsu. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/164 "2023-03-13T15:36:04Z")
> [@peccavi](#): > > On it’s Wikipedia page, EEAAO is described as “the most awarded film of all-time”. Quite a claim. Not even close, if they meant Oscars. (LOTR:ROTK won 13, if memory serves). If they meant every possible critic and viewer award around the world…maybe, who knows. EEAAO does have the distinction of being one of only 3 films to win 3 acting Oscars. I’ll give you a minute to come up with the other 2… Streetcar Named Desire (1951) and Network (1976) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/165 "2023-03-13T15:37:58Z")
I’m just guessing since you only allowed 1 minute, but was it > [@jsc1953](#): > > Streetcar Named Desire (1951) and Network (1976) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/166 "2023-03-13T15:55:20Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > > [@Biffster](#): > > > > Bail early if you want, fine. But don’t act like you know what you’re taking about when offering commentary on the film. > > This. I don’t think anyone has done this. What several posters have said – and that includes me – is that they started watching it, didn’t enjoy it, and quit watching it. That’s it. Nothing more. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/167 "2023-03-13T16:50:19Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Not even close, if they meant Oscars. (LOTR:ROTK won 13, if memory serves). If they meant every possible critic and viewer award around the world…maybe, who knows. I checked back on the page and they’ve updated the language to provide the reasoning. > According to calculations made by IGN prior to the Academy Awards, _Everything Everywhere All at Once_ received a total of 158 accolades to date from major critics organizations and awards bodies, making it the most awarded movie ever, beating out the 101 awards received by _The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King_ (2003). Its Oscar wins increased its tally to 165 wins. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/168 "2023-03-13T17:49:37Z")
EEAAO is not only critically acclaimed and award winning, it has connected with people on such a deep emotional level it has left them sobbing (see YouTube examples [here.](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=everything+everywhere+all+at+once+reaction+crying)) It does not deserve to be abandoned part way through just because the fight scenes are silly. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/169 "2023-03-13T17:49:43Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > I just find it refreshing that comedy and/or action films can win Best Picture now. I think that’s a big reason it doesn’t seem worthy to many people. But that has happened before. Rocky won in 1976, Annie Hall infamously won in 1977, Shakespeare in Love even more infamously won in 1998 (a comedy-drama)… it just tends to be a one off, and I don’t think EEAAO is going to change that really. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/170 "2023-03-13T18:03:12Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > It does not deserve to be abandoned part way through just because the fight scenes are silly. Would it have been better with less silly fight scenes? I don’t know the answer to that. I was really put off by the hot dog fingers. Others might have felt differently. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/171 "2023-03-13T18:11:08Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > It does not deserve to be abandoned part way through just because the fight scenes are silly. You could equally well express that as “the flimmakers should not have compromised the breadth of appeal of a great movie with 90 minutes of silly fight scenes”. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/172 "2023-03-13T18:57:41Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I was really put off by the hot dog fingers. Whereas I loved that someone came up with something as incredibly bonkers as that. And that even thought it started as a sight gag, even that world ended up having a really moving storyline. The weirder the film got, the more I enjoyed it. I mean damn, a silent still shot of two rocks was able to make me emotional. That’s incredible. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/173 "2023-03-13T19:01:19Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > The weirder the film got, the more I enjoyed it. Yeah, I loved the movie. (just not the hot dog fingers) ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/174 "2023-03-13T19:04:07Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Whereas I loved that someone came up with something as incredibly bonkers as that. And that even thought it started as a sight gag, even that world ended up having a really moving storyline. The weirder the film got, the more I enjoyed it. I mean damn, a silent still shot of two rocks was able to make me emotional. That’s incredible. Yes, I actually teared up at the rocks…. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/175 "2023-03-13T19:07:23Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > a silent still shot of two rocks was able to make me emotional I liked the rock interludes mainly because they were not doing comic-kung-fu like every other universe. I wonder what planet they shot those scenes on? ---
**Author:** ![tullsterx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tullsterx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tullsterx)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/176 "2023-03-13T19:25:33Z")
> It’s funny, there’s a movie called Take This Waltz (2011) that stars. . . I’m trying to figure out what this has to do with the thread. . . I mean no offense. . . ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/177 "2023-03-13T20:01:18Z")
I imagine it’s because Michelle Williams and Seth Rogan star in The Fabelmans (nominated for Best Picture), where their characters have an affair with each other, and Sarah Polley won an Oscar for best Adapted Screenplay for Women Talking. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/178 "2023-03-13T20:04:11Z")
^this ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/179 "2023-03-13T22:05:04Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Nobody owes two hours of their time to any film maker. No disagreement. But it’s also hard to offer any authoritative criticism on something one hasn’t seen either. It’s fine to say, “I watched half an hour and it wasn’t for me,” but not so cool to say “I watched half an hour and now I’m going to give my opinion on the film as a whole by extrapolating.” ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2023, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066/180 "2023-03-14T02:25:26Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’m not a big critic of who they do and do not include in the “In Memoriam”, but I will criticize this year on one point. No, not Paul Servino, though I am a bit surprised he did not warrant inclusion. > > **Charlbi Dean** was literally in the Best Picture nominee Triangle of Sadness and she died very tragically, and at a very young age, not long after making it. Heath Ledge was included his year, though he was nominated that year(and won!). > > Was Paul Walker in the Memoriam thing the year he died? I bet he was and Charlbi Dean’s death was quite tragic and she got entirely skipped. Was Charlbi Dean a member of the Academy? It’s not required but I don’t doubt it’s taken into account. I don’t have anything quantitative to show but I have the feeling that they gave many more names in the past. Having a live performer means they have to show that performer at least some of the time. Although the viewer is interested in their favorite actor that’s not all that the Academy is about. Actors are the biggest group but IIRC they make up about 20%. In the memorial scroll they make sure the other 80% get equal representation. Given the fact that some studio executive is up there it might knock out Paul Sorvino. Unlike the past they can now provide a full list online. There was a QR code at the end of the segment to go to the full list. Or you could just look at our Death Pool. > **[In Memoriam | A.frame](https://aframe.oscars.org/news/in-memoriam)** > > Tributes to industry legends through their movies, personal stories, and their fans. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-oscars/981066.md?page=10)