# 2023 SDMB Celebrity Death Pool

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2022, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831 "2022-12-01T04:02:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1581 "2023-09-24T05:23:48Z")

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> **[Rutgers basketball legend Phil Sellers dead at 69](https://nypost.com/2023/09/20/rutgers-basketball-legend-phil-sellers-dead-at-69/amp/)**
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> The dominant forward led the 1975-76 Rutgers squad to an undefeated season and a trip to the Final Four.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1582 "2023-09-24T21:14:20Z")

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Dick Clark died.

(The other one.)

> **[Former US Sen. Dick Clark, an Iowa Democrat known for helping Vietnam War...](https://apnews.com/article/senator-dick-clark-iowa-a6cb0e4e41666589439400166373239a)**
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> Former U.S. Sen. Dick Clark has died in Washington at age 95. Clark was a Democrat who served a single term representing Iowa in the 1970s.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1583 "2023-09-25T04:51:48Z")

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Is Carter the oldest ever former President?

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1584 "2023-09-25T05:13:41Z")

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Yes. Bush, Ford, Reagan, John Adams and Hoover were over 90 years old. The closest to Carter is Bush who died at 94.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1585 "2023-09-25T05:18:41Z")

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It is especially extraordinary that Adams lived to 91, I can always remember his age because in the movie musical 1776 his age is mentioned as 41, and we all know that trivia that he lived exactly fifty years after that.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1586 "2023-09-25T15:23:35Z")

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Adams didn’t quite make it to 91. He was born on October 30, 1735, and of course died on July 4, 1826.

Not being familiar with the musical _1776_, I don’t know what time period it covered. Perhaps part of it took place late in the year?

ETA: What’s impressive is that Adams was the longest-lived President for nearly two centuries, from 1803 (when he’d lived longer than Washington) to 2001 (when Reagan lived longer than Adams).

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1587 "2023-09-25T15:25:23Z")

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It kind of blows my mind that Herbert Hoover outlived John F. Kennedy.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1588 "2023-09-25T16:15:40Z")

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The show covers the debate over independence, and ends with the signing. Even though it was adopted on July 2 it’s depicted on the 4th. There is a lot of humor and one item I like is when a newly arrived member of the continental Congress approaches Franklin to let him know that his son, the Royal Governor, has been arrested, :“How is the little bastard?” is the reply. Or when Martha Jefferson arrives to see her husband and they go into a clinch. Franklin and Adams leave and Adams, depicted as a bit of a prig, thinks that now Jefferson can finish the declaration. Franklin tells him he doesn’t think he;ll get to it right away and Adams exclaims “You don’t mean they’re going to…in the middle of the afternoon?” “Not everybody’s from Boston John. The history books will clean it up”

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1589 "2023-09-25T16:21:40Z")

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Terry Kirkman, founder of the 60’s group The Association, dead at 83.

And then along went Terry.

> **[Terry Kirkman, the Association Singer and Founding Member, Dies at 83](https://variety.com/2023/music/news/terry-kirkman-dead-the-association-1235733822/)**
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> Singer-songwriter Terry Kirkman, a founding member of the 1960s folk-rock band the Association, has died. He was 83.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1590 "2023-09-25T16:59:48Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Adams didn’t quite make it to 91. He was born on October 30, 1735, and of course died on July 4, 1826.

The exact same day Thomas Jefferson died too. Weird, that.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1591 "2023-09-25T17:06:36Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> It kind of blows my mind that Herbert Hoover outlived John F. Kennedy

JFK has only missed one Detroit Lion playoff win.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1592 "2023-09-25T17:15:23Z")

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[Requiem for Terry](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jah4eqzYjvQ).

Never heard The Association described as a ‘folk-rock’ band before. They were for the most part a pop band with a string of top-40 hits like “Cherish,” “Windy,” “Never My Love,” and “Along Comes Mary.” There are some hints of folk-rock in some of the deep tracks of their albums, but even there it’s an occasional thing.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1593 "2023-09-25T20:21:50Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> The show covers the debate over independence, and ends with the signing. Even though it was adopted on July 2 it’s depicted on the 4th.

Although _1776_ is one my favorite musicals a history lesson it is not. The Lee resolution for independence was passed on July 2nd 12 - 0 with New York abstaining (courteously). The details of the declaration, the main part of the show, were actually hammered out between the 2nd and the 4th when it was ratified and announced. A copy of the declaration, signed by Hancock and Charles Thompson, the secretary of the Contental Congress, was sent to George III. The _engrossed_ copy, the one everyone is familiar with, was primarily signed on August 2nd although some delegates did not trickle in until as late as September.

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> The exact same day Thomas Jefferson died too. Weird, that.

Legend has it that Adams’ last words were, “At least Jefferson still lives.”

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1594 "2023-09-25T21:02:01Z")

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Oh I know it is not a history lesson but the _ **feel** _ of it is still good. In grade school I thought of all those grave and valiant forefathers working for our independence, but I can’t imagine now all the quarreling and self interest that must have gone on. And I do love the show, particulary William Daniels as Adams, with his duets with his wife. Some of that was taken from their letters.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1595 "2023-09-25T21:23:00Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> It kind of blows my mind that Herbert Hoover outlived John F. Kennedy.

Blew Kennedy’s mind, too.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1596 "2023-09-25T21:24:55Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> What’s impressive is that Adams was the longest-lived President for nearly two centuries, from 1803 (when he’d lived longer than Washington) to 2001 (when Reagan lived longer than Adams).

And the record belonged to Reagan for about 4 years, when Ford passed him up about 2 months before he checked out.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1597 "2023-09-25T21:56:49Z")

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David McCallum is no more.

> **[David McCallum](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_McCallum)**
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> David Keith McCallum Jr. (19 September 1933 – 25 September 2023) was a Scottish actor and musician. He gained wide recognition in the 1960s for playing secret agent Illya Kuryakin in the television series The Man from U.N.C.L.E. His other notable television roles include Carter in Colditz (1972–1974) and Steel in Sapphire & Steel (1979–1982). Beginning in 2003, McCallum gained renewed international popularity for his role as NCIS medical examiner Dr. Donald "Ducky" Mallard in the American tele...

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1598 "2023-09-26T00:08:17Z")

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ALIVE, but Sophia Loren suffers injuries.

> **[Sophia Loren, 89, Hospitalized After Accident at Home](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/sophia-loren-89-hospitalized-accident-143846347.html)**
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> The Italian actress needed emergency surgery for serious injuries sustained as a result of the incident.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1599 "2023-09-26T02:47:43Z")

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/975831/1600 "2023-09-26T03:28:06Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Blew Kennedy’s mind, too.

Too soon.  
What’s this handbasket doing here?

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