# 2024 Hurricane Season

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 19, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076 "2024-06-19T22:15:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/301 "2024-10-10T14:31:20Z")

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Usually the Networks go live with storm coverage. Pre-empting regular content like the Today show with that coverage.

Obviously that wasn’t needed this morning.  
A storm hit but it wasn’t at Cat 5 strength.

They scared a lot of people. Cat 5 predicted.  
Link [Hurricane Milton is a dangerous Category 5 as it heads toward Florida's coast : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2024/10/08/nx-s1-5145557/hurricane-milton-florida)

Next time I won’t pay as much attention. Since I don’t live in that area.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/302 "2024-10-10T14:34:56Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> They scared a lot of people. Cat 5 predicted.

I don’t understand this. The storm did reach Cat 5.

They should have scared a lot of people - it was a scary storm and pretty much did what was forecast a couple days ago. It’s still dropping a ton of rain and, now that it’s largely passed, lives and property are now going to experience issues from severe flooding. The largest ‘inaccuracy’, if you can even call it that, was the uncertainty in exactly where along the coast the storm struck. They knew it would be somewhere in roughly a 50 mile stretch. They didn’t get it pinpoint accurate, but they got the general vicinity right a couple days ago.

I don’t understand why accurate predictions are cause to ignore future ones.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/303 "2024-10-10T14:39:05Z")

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> [@Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](#):
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> We continued to get almost nothing here in west central Broward. Our tropical storm warning has been dropped. We still have a wind advisory for most of the day.
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> I see 3.3 million customers in the state are listed as having no power. I’m just starting to see the destruction elsewhere. I did see two different animal rescues in the general area post that they took massive damage, although happily all the animals are safe.
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> I have a few co-workers in heavily effected areas. I’m hopeful to hear from them today.

Southeast Palm Beach County (“PBC”). It only ever sprinkled here; no real rain at any time. We had a windy Wed afternoon and overnight, but nothing to speak of. I overlook a large golf course with lots of deciduous and palm trees. There’s no sign of downed trees or even much in the way of torn limbs. The groundskeepers have been collecting some broken small branches, but not many.

Right now at 10am Thu I’ve got all my windows open and it’s a nice sunny day here with the usual tropical breeze.

Seems the tornadoes made a dent in the northern suburbs of PBC. Ouch for them.

Of course the story around Sarasota will be ghastly.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/304 "2024-10-10T14:41:39Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Next time I won’t pay as much attention.

Hmmm.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/305 "2024-10-10T14:43:08Z")

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The Florida Interstates and highways are ok?

That’s been the problem after Helene.  
Getting in or out is bad in some places.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/306 "2024-10-10T14:50:49Z")

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It’s not been daylight for very long. It will take some time to assess all of the damage.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/307 "2024-10-10T14:51:03Z")

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We used sandbags on a couple of occasions in SE Texas to divert (minor) floodwaters away from our back door. They’re useful for lesser degrees of flooding even though some water will eventually leak through, not great for protection in case of a major storm surge.

Protection of levees and such is another matter.

[https://lewiscountywa.gov/departments/emergency-management/flood-information/sandbags-frequently-asked-questions/](https://lewiscountywa.gov/departments/emergency-management/flood-information/sandbags-frequently-asked-questions/)

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/308 "2024-10-10T14:53:49Z")

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My friend checked in. They lost power, but he hadn’t found any damage.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/309 "2024-10-10T14:56:37Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> So where will the Rays play next year? I rather doubt they can rebuild the dome by then- they certainly can’t play in open air.

It’s that bad?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/310 "2024-10-10T14:59:44Z")

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My thoughts exactly. It’s Florida, not Minnesota. Let them play open-air games then do the repairs when they can. If they fix it now, let the Rays play at a college field. It’s not like they draw 30K+ fans to home games.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/311 "2024-10-10T15:00:03Z")

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[**I just answered my own question.**](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/milton-shreds-roof-tropicana-field-home-baseballs-tampa-bay-rays-rcna174808) 😳

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/312 "2024-10-10T15:02:05Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> It’s Florida, not Minnesota. Let them play open-air games then do the repairs when they can

Agreed! I think it’s a good idea, and I think that’s exactly what they will do. I’m wondering how many bugs will swarm around all those lights. LOL

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/313 "2024-10-10T15:12:46Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> The Florida Interstates and highways are ok?
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> That’s been the problem after Helene.  
> Getting in or out is bad in some places.

Florida’s highways aren’t built in gullies or cliffside.

I’m sure that right near the flooding there’s debris on the highways that will need to be cleared. Once the water finishes receding (which is probably almost done now at noon-ish on Thu) and the debris is pushed aside the highways will be fine.

The major thoroughfares in the surge-ravaged areas will be another matter. Just so much wreckage to move / remove. Gonna be a big job. _Then_ they can start in on the ordinary residential streets.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/314 "2024-10-10T15:38:05Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> It’s not been daylight for very long. It will take some time to assess all of the damage.

This. As bad as things look on TV right now the truth is it will take a day or three to really get an idea of how bad things actually are.

Everyone, and that includes the authorities, have likely been sheltering most of the night. People are just now starting to get back out into communities and with various types of damage, debris, and flooding in different areas travel could be difficult for a little while.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/315 "2024-10-10T15:50:45Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> As bad as things look on TV right now the truth is it will take a day or three to really get an idea of how bad things actually are.

+1

Based on memories of past storms, the TV crews can only really get to the easily accessible places now. They naturally can’t get to the places that are really badly hit and/or underwater, especially those well off major roads. And even when they do, it’ll still naturally be the ones that are relatively close to safety.

It’s going to be a few days before they really get a rough idea of the full extent and perhaps weeks before we get an truly accurate accounting.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/316 "2024-10-10T16:31:47Z")

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The tropical storm situation has obviously gotten worse over time and, with climate change, is certain to be worse. At what point does property become uninsurable and thus unlivable in a practical sense? How many hurricanes in what time span. We’ve had Helene and Milton in a span of 2 or 3 weeks.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/317 "2024-10-10T17:02:57Z")

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> **[Tropicana Field was set to be a refuge for storm personnel. Then Hurricane...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/10/us/tropicana-field-roof-hurricane-milton-florida/index.html)**
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> Hurricane Milton showed no mercy in its deadly rampage across Florida, shredding the roof of Tropicana Stadium – which was supposed to help shelter first responders.

They were going to use a facility with a fabric roof? Anyone with an ounce of common sense would know that a fabric roof would be much more vulnerable to a hurricane.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/318 "2024-10-10T17:32:23Z")

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You don’t suppose a “fabric” roof in _Tampa_ would be designed with a hurricane in mind?

To be sure, there have been failures of fabric roofs due to wind or snow or whatever. But in each case the design took into account the conditions expected.

There will be a pretty thorough investigation of this and it’ll be interesting to learn what they eventually come up with a couple years from now. Did they design for 150mph winds and got 175? Did nobody notice how the seams would be uniquely vulnerable if _a_, _b_, and _c_ all happened at once? We don’t know. But we will.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/319 "2024-10-10T17:53:08Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> You don’t suppose a “fabric” roof in _Tampa_ would be designed with a hurricane in mind?

As the cited article notes, it was designed for up to 115 mph winds, which would cover very low Cat 3 at landfall. Milton came in as a high Cat 3. Fortunately, they realized the risk and the field was empty when it was hit.

That was probably a reasonable decision when it was designed and built but these days with increasing storm intensity, they’ll probably have to plan for stronger storms.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-hurricane-season/1003076/320 "2024-10-10T17:58:27Z")

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The best thing to do with Tropicana is to demolish it and build a decent stadium in Tampa. The thing is maybe the second worst stadium after the Oakland Colosseum.

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