# 2024 Oscar (96th Academy Awards) Nominations

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**Created:** [January 23, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545 "2024-01-23T14:46:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/21 "2024-01-23T20:00:16Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> As an aside, does anyone else consider the Supporting Actor/Actress awards to be more prestigious than the lead ones? It’s easy to put in a good performance when the movie’s all about you; it’s much harder to support another star.

There was a running gag on Saturday Night Live in the old days when Bill Murray would make his annual Oscar predictions, and when it came to Supporting Actor & Supporting Actress, his response would be, “Who cares?”

Meanwhile, I am wondering, what films that were expected to do well got completely shut out of nominations? Two that I can think of are _All of Us Strangers_ and _Ferrari_.

One thing that most people don’t realize; when there are more than five nominees for Best Picture (which, BTW, is the only category that has “Best” still in its official name), the nominees are limited to films where at least 5% of the people submitting nominating ballots had it ranked as their #1 film of the year.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/22 "2024-01-23T20:03:20Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> Meanwhile, I am wondering, what films that were expected to do well got completely shut out of nominations? Two that I can think of are _All of Us Strangers_ and _Ferrari_.

_Saltburn_ not included in Best Picture was a surprise.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/23 "2024-01-23T20:12:01Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> Best Picture (which, BTW, is the only category that has “Best” still in its official name),

Er, what? The official list from the Academy. All films (features and shorts) are listed as “Best -”.

> **[96TH OSCARS® NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED](https://press.oscars.org/news/96th-oscarsr-nominations-announced)**
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> 96TH OSCARS® NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/24 "2024-01-23T20:44:20Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> > [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> > Best Picture (which, BTW, is the only category that has “Best” still in its official name),
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> Er, what? The official list from the Academy. All films (features and shorts) are listed as “Best -”.  
> [96TH OSCARS® NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED | Academy Press Office](https://press.oscars.org/news/96th-oscarsr-nominations-announced)

Technically, those aren’t the way the awards are announced, or listed in the rules - it’s not “Best Motion Picture of the Year,” which is what is says on that press release, but “Best Picture,” and similarly, none of the other awards for films have “Best” in their award titles.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/25 "2024-01-23T20:59:14Z")

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Gerwig and Robbie not being nominated for a film which positioned itself against the patriarchy, while Gosling… playing a character who reveled in patriarchial assumptions… _did_ get nominated is the 👩‍🍳’s 💏 of AA messaging.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/26 "2024-01-23T21:00:11Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> Technically, those aren’t the way the awards are announced, or listed in the rules - it’s not “Best Motion Picture of the Year,” which is what is says on that press release, but “Best Picture,” and similarly, none of the other awards for films have “Best” in their award titles

Here are the [**award rules**](https://www.oscars.org/sites/oscars/files/96o_complete_rules.pdf) on the Academy site (pdf). It appears that you are both partially correct. The only time “Best” appears as an award title is when it is for an entire work. Acting awards are just “performance by” and all of the other awards are “achievement in”, except for screenwriting, which have no qualifiers, just the category. The **[official release](https://press.oscars.org/news/96th-oscarsr-nominations-announced)** on the Academy site follows these rules.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/27 "2024-01-23T21:19:22Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> Technically, those aren’t the way the awards are announced

What now?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/YCRQqSHTUio/maxresdefault.jpg "'Navalny' Wins Best Documentary Feature Film | 95th Oscars (2023)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCRQqSHTUio&t=66)

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/28 "2024-01-23T21:20:47Z")

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> [@peccavi](#):
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> The only time “Best” appears as an award title is when it is for an entire work

That’s what Eyebrows said.

> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> All films (features and shorts) are listed as “Best -”.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/29 "2024-01-23T22:28:52Z")

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That’ll teach me to read all the new posts in a thread before replying to a specific post…

I’ve been reading the rules. It is interesting that the expansion to 6 “metropolitan areas” (except for the Bay Area, which is a pretty amorphous area, they designate counties, not the [metropolitan statistical area](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_statistical_area)) for qualifying theatrical runs didn’t choose the 6 most populous areas:

Los Angeles County (#1 single county)  
New York City (Not a single county, but would be #2 if counted that way)  
Bay Area - SF, Marin, San Mateo, Alameda, and Contra Costa Counties (Adding up the counties listed, it would be tied for about #4 in the single county list)  
Chicago - Cook County (#2 in county population, but #3 when NYC is counted)  
Miami - Dade County (#9 with NYC and Bay Area slotted in)  
Atlanta - Fulton County (#44, about 42nd in single counties)

But I’ll bet when you look at the geographic distribution of Academy members (which I couldn’t find anywhere), you’d find these areas contain a significant majority, though I’d bet that of these, LA and NYC are about 80% (which explains the ubiquitous “for your consideration” billboards along every freeway and arterial surface street in LA).

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/30 "2024-01-23T23:36:56Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Is Boy and the Heron the likely winner for best animated movie? I hope so. Miyazaki won, I think, the very first animated film award with Spirited Away.

Spider-Man was a stunning accomplishment in animation with the blending of dozens of different styles. The only complaint I had was I didn’t know it was going to end on a cliffhanger.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/31 "2024-01-23T23:44:46Z")

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Robbie is such a goddamn good actress, even in roles like Barbie and Harley Quinn. This omission pisses me off.

And Gosling’s nomination is baffling, honestly. I mean, he’s an excellent actor but in _Barbie_? He’s funny but it’s mostly scenery chewing, not anything remotely on par with Robbie’s performance in the same film.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/32 "2024-01-24T00:00:35Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Robbie is such a goddamn good actress, even in roles like Barbie and Harley Quinn. This omission pisses me off.

Have you seen “I, Tonya”? Amazing performance. One wouldn’t believe the same actress played both Barbie and Tonya Harding.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/33 "2024-01-24T00:22:00Z")

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**When Evil Lurks** was the best movie I saw from 2023 and it is a shame it didn’t get any notice, though being an intense horror movie probably is one reason why. And it is in Spanish.

**Suzume** was also not nominated for Best Animated Movie and it was really great as well.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/34 "2024-01-24T00:38:12Z")

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Like this tweet from Letterboxd:

> <https://twitter.com/letterboxd/status/1749952983184646349>

If you saw Saw 10 like I did, he actually was very excellent in it.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/35 "2024-01-24T00:47:10Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Robbie is such a goddamn good actress, even in roles like Barbie and Harley Quinn. This omission pisses me off.
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> And Gosling’s nomination is baffling, honestly. I mean, he’s an excellent actor but in _Barbie_? He’s funny but it’s mostly scenery chewing, not anything remotely on par with Robbie’s performance in the same film.

Since I didn’t see the most of the movies in the best actress I reserving judgement. Maybe there were five better performances? I don’t know, maybe the ones nominated were better but Robbie was fantastic. Her performance was very nuanced. Gosling wasn’t nuanced but he was the comic center of the movie. Without the comedy the movie wouldn’t be nearly as effective or enjoyable. I think both deserved nominations.

Neither will or would have won. I’m all in on Lily Gladstone and I think RDJ will win and deserves to win.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/36 "2024-01-24T00:56:27Z")

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Best performances I can remember were:

Joaquin Phoenix in Beau is Afraid

Chris Pine in Dungeons and Dragons

Ezequiel Rodríguez in When Evil Lurks

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/37 "2024-01-25T19:45:14Z")

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As I mentioned in another thread, I was delighted to see Sandra Hüller nominated for Best Actress for her role in _Anatomy of a Fall_, which itself is in the running for Best Picture. Guess who I’ll be rooting for in the Best Actress category!

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Guess who I’ll be rooting for in the Best Actress category!

I’m guessing you’ll be rooting for Sandra Hüller?

I didn’t realize she was the actor from Toni Erdmann, I’ll be rooting for her too!

Wait, she’s also in Zone of Interest! That’s some year.

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/39 "2024-01-25T19:55:04Z")

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> [@veryfrank](#):
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> I’m guessing that Lily Gladstone may lose to Emma Stone,

Stone is currently the favorite, but not by much - no oddsmaker thinks it will be anyone OTHER than Stone or Gladstone.

I am rooting for Bradley Cooper to win Best Actor just because the guy’s been up for nine oscars before and has lost 'em all. He’s up in three categories this year but Maestro has no shot at Best Picture and is an extreme longshot in Screenplay.

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-oscar-96th-academy-awards-nominations/996545/40 "2024-01-25T20:03:04Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Wait, she’s also in Zone of Interest! That’s some year.

I didn’t notice that! In _Anatomy of a Fall_, Hüller is supposed to be originally of German descent, who moved to the UK originally and then to France with her French husband. I didn’t know she really was originally German IRL. _Zone of Interest_ is predominantly German dialog, with some Polish and Yiddish. So apparently Sandra Hüller is fluently **tri** -lingual (at least), plus one hell of an actress!

I just checked and, as I expected, it was her role in _Anatomy_ that got her the Oscar nomination.

> [@RickJay](#):
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> no oddsmaker thinks it will be anyone OTHER than Stone or Gladstone.

Now I’m rooting for Sandra Hüller even more! 😁

(I do like Emma Stone, but this is a question of artistic merit!)

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