# 2024 SDMB Celebrity Death Pool

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2023, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940 "2023-12-01T06:01:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1402 "2024-07-13T13:43:08Z")

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If there’s no definitive data of birth, then the rules say that the later number is used, resulting in the lowest points being awarded.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1403 "2024-07-13T14:04:20Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> If Charo dies, how many points is she worth?

I’ve always wondered about this. I don’t mean points-wise, but how can there be zero accurate record for her birth? I wonder if, when she does die, we’ll find out?

I remember Al Lewis always claimed to be much older than he was. He claimed around 1910, but it was really 1923. It all came out clearly when he died, though. I mean, records do exist, but people just lie about their age.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1404 "2024-07-13T14:17:59Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> If there’s no definitive data of birth, then the rules say that the later number is used, resulting in the lowest points being awarded.

The issue with Charo is that, unlike most celebrities who just lie about their birthdate, she actually had her birthdate legally changed.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1405 "2024-07-13T15:01:10Z")

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> **[Dr. Ruth Westheimer, America’s most famous sex therapist, dead at 96](https://nypost.com/2024/07/13/entertainment/dr-ruth-westheimer-americas-most-famous-sex-therapist-dead-at-96/?utm_campaign=nypost&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social)**
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> Westheimer died Friday at her home in Manhattan, her publicist Pierre Lehu confirmed. No cause of death was announced.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1406 "2024-07-13T16:33:22Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The issue with Charo is that, unlike most celebrities who just lie about their birthdate, she actually had her birthdate legally changed.

Does this mean we know for sure what it was before it was changed?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1407 "2024-07-13T16:48:38Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Does this mean we know for sure what it was before it was changed?

We don’t know with absolute certainty but there is very strong evidence Charo was born on March 13, 1941. That is the date on her birth certificate (it’s also the date she used on her first passport). Charo has spoken of her early life and school years and a 1941 birthdate seems to match those recollections.

But later in life, Charo began telling people that she was actually born later (she switched the year a few times). She said the 1941 birthdate was made up to make her look older in order to advance her career and the documents supporting that date are false.

This culminated in a 1977 court appearance when Charo produced affidavits from her parents saying she was born on January 15, 1951. The judge said why not and declared that was now her legal birthdate.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1408 "2024-07-13T17:42:25Z")

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Since her birthday was adjudicated to be 1951, and that’s the year that results in the fewest points, that would be the year that we would use.

That’s my understanding of the rules, anyway.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1409 "2024-07-13T17:44:37Z")

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Ron Howard is 5 days older than I am. ‘Uptown Girl’ Christie Brinkley is 32 days older than me. In between are luminaries such as John Travolta, ‘Simpsons’ creator Matt Groening, and President Erdogan of Turkiye.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1410 "2024-07-13T17:57:21Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> ‘Uptown Girl’ Christie Brinkley is 32 days older than me.

Brinkley turned 21 on the day I was born.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1411 "2024-07-13T20:22:38Z")

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Dr. Ruth and Richard Simmons on the same day? Sad day for fans of 1980s pop culture.

> **[Richard Simmons Dead at 76](https://amp.tmz.com/2024/07/13/richard-simmons-dead-dies-fintess-guru/)**
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> Richard Simmons -- the legendary fitness guru -- has died at 76 ... TMZ has learned.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1412 "2024-07-13T20:26:53Z")

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Other sites say he is still alive. Could they have confused his birthday with his deathday?  
Update-Now Wiki says **Milton Teagle**" **Richard**" **Simmons** is dead.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1413 "2024-07-13T20:32:33Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Sad day for fans of 1980s pop culture.

Eat more fiber, Mr. T!

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1414 "2024-07-13T20:36:57Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Other sites say he is still alive. Could they have confused his birthday with his deathday?  
> Update-Now Wiki says **Milton Teagle**" **Richard**" **Simmons** is dead.

I trust TMZ over a lot of other sites.

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_Ducky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrs_ducky/32/6227_2.png) [@Mrs\_Ducky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_Ducky)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1415 "2024-07-13T20:56:51Z")

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I actually met him once when I was a production assistant for a radio talk show. He had the most perfect skin that I’ve ever seen on anyone. I also had him on my list, so I’m finally on the board!

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1416 "2024-07-13T21:15:18Z")

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I bagged those points also. I’d rather have scored with Mitch McConnell, but oh well.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1417 "2024-07-14T12:38:01Z")

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Sad. I had her, as did a lot of us.

> **[Shannen Doherty, ‘Beverly Hills 90210’ and ‘Charmed’ Star, Dies at 53](https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/shannen-doherty-beverly-hills-90210-star-dies-53-1236071496/amp/)**
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> Shannen Doherty, who played Brenda on 'Beverly Hills 90210' and starred in 'Charmed,' has died.

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**Author:** ![J-P\_L](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/j-p_l/32/3156_2.png) [@J-P\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/J-P_L)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1418 "2024-07-14T14:22:06Z")

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Had her as well. Carried her for a few years, 2018 and before and then took her off my list.  
I must have heard about the cancer recurring because I put her back on my list for 2024.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1419 "2024-07-14T14:25:25Z")

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Yep, same here.

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**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1420 "2024-07-14T14:44:17Z")

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I had Shannen Doherty on my list for a few years.  
If I remembered to turn one in this year it would have erased the goose egg.  
Oh, well Keith Richard is still hanging in there though.

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/993940/1421 "2024-07-14T15:04:18Z")

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Not unexpected, but I feel sad.

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