# 2025 California Wildfire Season Has Begun

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 8, 2025, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707 "2025-01-08T02:14:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/201 "2025-01-14T18:47:28Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Wait, people LIKE the explosions?

Speaking for myself, yes. Feeling the shockwave is a fundamentally important part of the experience, and if you are too far away to feel it, you are too far away.

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/202 "2025-01-14T18:48:07Z")

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(re: Auto Fire in Ventura County)

Oddly, CalFire’s website had that one fully contained at one point this morning, but is now (I’m typing at about 10:45am Pacific) reporting 0% containment, and that change happened probably about a couple of hours ago.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/203 "2025-01-14T18:50:29Z")

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> [@Seanette](#):
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> Oddly, CalFire’s website had that one fully contained at one point this morning, but is now (I’m typing at about 10:45am Pacific) reporting 0% containment, and that change happened probably about a couple of hours ago.

Yeah, the report I saw on that one mentioned “stopped the fire from advancing” and “0% containment” in the same sentence. I guess it was/is limited to the Santa Clara riverbed. My daughter lives about a mile from there.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/204 "2025-01-14T18:50:36Z")

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Luckily, our current dog doesn’t care about fireworks, but I’ve had two others that it was so bad, we fled to Canada to avoid them on the 4th. Also, we had a fire right near our house due to fireworks. I despise them now. And now, they are setting off a metric shit ton New Year’s Eve as well. 🤮

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/205 "2025-01-14T18:53:24Z")

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The 0% contained stat is from 11 hours ago. It isn’t a CalFire incident so I don’t think they have the most up to date status. I’ve seen [elsewhere](https://www.newsweek.com/live-updates-los-angeles-california-wildfires-auto-hurst-eaton-palisades-2014576) that it’s 100%.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/206 "2025-01-14T18:53:24Z")

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> [@Seanette](#):
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> Oddly, CalFire’s website had that one fully contained at one point this morning, but is now (I’m typing at about 10:45am Pacific) reporting 0% containment, and that change happened probably about a couple of hours ago.

I have dozens of friends in the area and they are reporting that it’s contained. Maybe not the best source.

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/207 "2025-01-14T18:53:28Z")

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I have a very profound loathing for the super-loud ones, “thanks” to idiots in my area who keep shooting them off ALL DAMN NIGHT on the 4th. Between the booms and the car alarms reacting, more than once my husband and/or I have had to miss work due to complete lack of sleep. My cats don’t like all the commotion, either, and I know from growing up with dogs that they tend to react worse to such things than cats tend to.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/208 "2025-01-14T18:58:59Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> The 0% contained stat is from 11 hours ago. It isn’t a CalFire incident so I don’t think they have the most up to date status. I’ve seen [elsewhere](https://www.newsweek.com/live-updates-los-angeles-california-wildfires-auto-hurst-eaton-palisades-2014576) that it’s 100%.

GTK, thanks!

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/209 "2025-01-14T20:47:38Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> Evidently, a resident there snapped a photo of a fire on a hilltop above town on new year’s eve, that the fire dept put out. The resident snapped another photo at the start of the Palisades fire of the same hilltop ablaze. It was suggested embers could have still been hot enough to catch fire when those Santa Ana winds kicked up a few days later. If fireworks end up identified as the cause, maybe they will finally be banned in all of CA.

Apparently it was a BBQ. But yeah, it is time to ban non-professional fireworks in all of CA. Just over the border from LA county on 126 is the little town if Fillmore. Every 4th of July the town fills with firework stands- and the sales arent to the few local residents, it is to people in LA county.

> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> Wouldn’t break my heart to see, but I doubt it would make a tiny bit of difference. Most of the fireworks I see going on here and in LA (and not just confined to 7/4 celebrations) are the kinds that are already illegal here.

Yep. It is the illegal in CA fireworks that cause most of the fires.

The lies continue-  
[https://www.krem.com/article/news/verify/wildfires-verify/did-los-angeles-mayor-decline-nyc-help-wildfires-fact-check/536-f5fb0da8-79a0-4c6f-b315-96322c769169](https://www.krem.com/article/news/verify/wildfires-verify/did-los-angeles-mayor-decline-nyc-help-wildfires-fact-check/536-f5fb0da8-79a0-4c6f-b315-96322c769169)

_No, Los Angeles mayor didn’t decline New York City’s offer to help fight wildfires_

[https://www.myfoxzone.com/article/news/verify/wildfires-verify/california-did-not-reject-delay-out-of-state-fire-trucks-emissions-tests/536-da1fdf54-b2b4-4531-b186-400235d94b81](https://www.myfoxzone.com/article/news/verify/wildfires-verify/california-did-not-reject-delay-out-of-state-fire-trucks-emissions-tests/536-da1fdf54-b2b4-4531-b186-400235d94b81)

_No, California did not reject or delay out-of-state fire trucks for emissions tests_

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/210 "2025-01-15T00:44:24Z")

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> A lot of people just suck that way.
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> [Exclusive | TikToker captures idiots releasing lantern balloons as LA burns: video](https://nypost.com/2025/01/12/us-news/tiktoker-captures-idiots-releasing-lantern-balloons-as-la-burns-video/)

Those things are as bad as shooting a gun into the air. We had to throw out a drying rack that was partially burned by a balloon and had to patch a hole in the roof caused by a bullet. Some people just enjoy doing stupid shit.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/211 "2025-01-15T01:06:27Z")

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> I expect to see fireworks-caused fires long after any blanket ban. A lot of people just suck that way.

The New York Post is slightly less reliable than the Weekly World News, and TikTak is even less reliable. Got a real cite? Because I am right here, in SoCal. a buddy is a retired firefighter who is doing estimates, and giving us fire news- and I have not heard anything like that. And the news here is fire news 24/7. I mean, I guess it could have slipped by him…

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/212 "2025-01-15T01:52:37Z")

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Cite for what? Sorry, I’m not tracking what you’re responding to. My statement that a lot of people suck?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/213 "2025-01-15T01:57:08Z")

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> Cite for what?

Your **New York Post Tik Tok** claim. About the lantern balloons.

why do you think i said-_The New York Post is slightly less reliable than the Weekly World News, and TikTak is even less reliable._

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/214 "2025-01-15T02:21:07Z")

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Well, that’s not what part of my post you quoted hence my confusion.

I agree that the Post is a less than optimal source, but the rest of the places discussing this video are local message boards or threads on Reddit and require sorting through a number of posts together the whole picture.

One way or the other, the video is clear. Jackasses were launching sky lanterns from Carpinteria beach and became defensive and belligerent when confronted. People like this get caught launching these things here in Santa Barbara all the time. What’s notable here is the context. Where we are in fire season, what’s happening in LA, and the idiots insisting they have ‘permits’.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/215 "2025-01-15T18:59:09Z")

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More Lies

[https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36TF3F4](https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36TF3F4)

_US President Joe Biden traveled to Los Angeles on January 6, 2025, as devastating fires raged around America’s second-largest city. However, online claims that the visit prevented firefighting aircraft from deploying in the area are false – officials said emergency operations were exempt from presidential air restrictions._

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/216 "2025-01-16T01:18:40Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> If people can’t get homeowners insurance, will only those rich enough to self-insure be able to rebuild?

Different places around the country have different building codes based on the problems associated with that area. California will focus on buildings made of bricks instead of straw or sticks. Might be a trendy place where computer printed cement houses are welcome.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/217 "2025-01-16T01:32:44Z")

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I doubt that brick construction will be the standard, given the earthquake risk.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/218 "2025-01-16T01:40:55Z")

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Sorry, it was a 3 little pigs reference. But steel roofing, cement clad siding and any other fire resistant construction techniques will almost certainly be incorporated into future housing codes after this. Insurance costs are going to drive these codes.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/219 "2025-01-16T01:48:58Z")

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New fire just down the road from me: [Little Mountain fire](https://www.merca20.com/little-mountain-fire-raises-alerts-in-california-flames-threaten-structures/), at the 210/215 junction in San Bernardino. Forward progress has been stopped before it topped the hills and headed into houses by the golf course. No cause yet.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-california-wildfire-season-has-begun/1012707/220 "2025-01-16T01:58:44Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> California will focus on buildings made of bricks instead of straw or sticks

Nope

> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I doubt that brick construction will be the standard, given the earthquake risk.

Yep.

There is no outside wood on a CA house- the wood is inside, the frame. Even a cement block house will have wood furniture.

> [@Magiver](#):
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> But steel roofing,

We have concrete roofing- which is getting common. Few of those house had wood roofs, only perhaps a few very old grandfathered in houses.

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