# 2025 college football season thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [August 31, 2025, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628 "2025-08-31T04:35:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/301 "2025-12-24T04:05:03Z")

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If an away game is 4 points and a home game is 2 points, a game at a neutral site should be 3 points IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/302 "2025-12-24T10:13:25Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> I say no points for a win over an FCS school. In 2024, FCS teams had a whopping total of six wins over FBS teams. Let’s make it just two tiers: P4 and all other FBS schools.

Or full points for P4 schools, halve all the point values for G5 schools, 0 points for wins over FCS schools, -2 points for a loss to an FCS school.

This doesn’t address the fact that the FCS schools count on cupcake money for their athletic programs, you would have to institute some sort of revenue sharing arrangement, but that should be doable.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/303 "2025-12-24T13:13:08Z")

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I was thinking about just ignoring a school’s FCS games altogether, then dividing the final points total by the number of non-FCS games.

The suggestions for halving the points for neutral site games is a good one, I came up with pretty much the same thoughts overnight.

And the idea of weighting results against P4 vs against G5 is probably necessary, too. Not all D1 schedules are equal.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/304 "2025-12-24T14:57:23Z")

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I agree. Neutral sites should count midway between home and away.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/305 "2025-12-24T23:11:20Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Southern Cal has cancelled the Notre Dame rivalry until at least 2030.

Fucking Weak. A Giant Step towards abandoning this team all-together. First they bail on the Pac-12, now this. Pathetic!

Might have to find something else to do on Saturday afternoons.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/306 "2025-12-25T13:52:21Z")

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Anybody else happen to watch the Cal/Hawaii game last night? I switched channels to the game just at the start of the 4th quarter. Hawaii was down 21-13 but outscored Cal 22-10 in the last quarter, including the game-winning 22-yard TD pass by their backup quarterback with 10 seconds left to win 35-31.

I really had no interest in that game, but that last quarter was certainly fun to watch!

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/307 "2025-12-25T15:41:42Z")

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I followed it. Down 21 zip and then Hawaii scored on its last six possessions! Both QBs from Hawaii. We (I live in Hawaii) have a long chain of QBs going to major college programs and then to the pros. Most of the high schools follow a pro style offense. St. Louis on the private side and Mililani (and others) on the public side.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/308 "2025-12-27T01:59:56Z")

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Watched a few minutes of the Rate Bowl. Sloppy like a Pop Warner game with no lines on the field. Terrible football.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/309 "2025-12-28T04:42:43Z")

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A long time ago, I had threads for a couple years in which I ranked teams according to a points system. I remember at one point the system was widely ridiculed for ranking a two-loss Stanford team first, but Stanford didn’t play any cupcakes and had some impressive wins. If you don’t take points away for losing, that can happen. Which is fine with me, but seems counterintuitive for most.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2025, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/310 "2025-12-29T03:26:11Z")

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The Pop-Tarts Bowl came down to the last play - an interception in the end zone with the offense down by 5 points.

Then, of course, the sacrifice of two of the three edible mascots. (The third one got away).

The bands’ trombone sleeves were decorated like Pop-Tarts. The penalty flags had sprinkles on them. This is The People’s National Championship.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2026, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/311 "2026-01-01T03:53:28Z")

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Well, there will not be a repeat champion in college football this year.

Guess Miami did belong in the playoffs after all.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2026, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/312 "2026-01-01T04:10:11Z")

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Wow! Did not see that coming at all. I wasn’t watching because I’m busy preparing for an event tomorrow morning, but just saw the score.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2026, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/313 "2026-01-01T04:32:13Z")

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Buckeyes go DOWN.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2026, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/314 "2026-01-01T04:50:41Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Buckeyes go DOWN

Whew. Very cool. Hope Indiana does well.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2026, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/315 "2026-01-01T13:32:27Z")

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That was unexpected but that Miami defensive line was a marvel of seeking and destroying.

There might have been some staleness as a factor; the top four seeds haven’t played in over three weeks. Is there an argument against starting sooner in the year?

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2026, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/316 "2026-01-01T13:42:17Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> There might have been some staleness as a factor; the top four seeds haven’t played in over three weeks.

Last year, all four teams that received the first-round bye lost in the second round.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2026, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/317 "2026-01-01T14:32:17Z")

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I’ve seen articles calling Miami’s win this biggest upset in the playoff-system’s history.

Really? I mean, big, but nothing bigger since we switched to this playoff system?

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2026, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/318 "2026-01-01T15:38:04Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> nothing bigger since we switched to this playoff system?

The College Football Playoff was first instituted in 2014. From 2014 through 2023, there were four teams. So, during those years, the biggest ‘upset’ would have been #4 beating #1. (Which happened twice.)

Last year was the first year of the 12-team playoff. The #5 through #8 seeds all won in the first round, so there were no upsets. In the second round, all of the top 4 seeds lost, with the biggest upset being #8 Ohio State defeating #1 Oregon.

So #10 Miami beating #2 Ohio State last night could be classified as the biggest upset in CFP history.

Rather small sample size, obviously.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2026, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/319 "2026-01-01T15:50:53Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> There might have been some staleness as a factor; the top four seeds haven’t played in over three weeks. Is there an argument against starting sooner in the year?

The reason I used to see mentioned was that players had to have time off in the early to middle part of December so that they can focus on final exams. I don’t know how much that’s actually necessary these days, but my guess is not very much.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2026, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-college-football-season-thread/1022628/320 "2026-01-01T15:54:27Z")

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Comments from disappointed OSU followers on social media/team fandom websites are entertaining, including ones ragging on their coach’s responsibility for this massive failure.

“What have you done for us lately?” 😆

There’s nothing like the misery that comes with not winning a national championship every year.

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