# 2025 Hurricane Season

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 1, 2025, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074 "2025-06-01T15:28:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/1 "2025-06-01T15:28:55Z")

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Today, June 1 is the official start of the 2025 hurricane season. The articles I have read suggest a worse than usual hurricane season with a federal government less prepared for it.

> **[Hurricane season is upon us, but NOAA and FEMA are not ready » Yale Climate...](https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2025/05/hurricane-season-is-upon-us-but-noaa-and-fema-are-not-ready/)**
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> The turmoil at key U.S. agencies threatens everything from forecast quality to storm recovery.

**NOAA predicts above-normal 2025 Atlantic hurricane season: Above-average Atlantic Ocean temperatures set the stage**

[https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/noaa-predicts-above-normal-2025-atlantic-hurricane-season](https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/noaa-predicts-above-normal-2025-atlantic-hurricane-season)

> **[Hurricane season is here, and the nation's top forecaster has an urgent message](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/06/01/hurricane-season-2025-begins-how-to-prepare/83500330007/)**
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> USA TODAY spoke with National Hurricane Center Director Michael Brennan about what you should do to prepare for hurricane season, which starts June 1.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/2 "2025-06-01T19:21:26Z")

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It might be a bit delayed:

> **[Saharan dust cloud to blanket Florida: it’s normal, it’ll happen again](https://www.wgcu.org/top-story/2025-05-31/saharan-dust-cloud-to-blanket-florida-its-normal-itll-happen-again)**
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> The Saharan Air Layer can tame hurricanes, help grow fish food in the ocean, beautify sunsets, trigger asthma attacks, and turn blue skies white

> This phenomenon is closely watched by meteorologists in cities such as Cape Coral and Fort Myers because when the Saharan Air Layer is present, hurricane activity in the Gulf of Mexico and surrounding areas is often reduced, providing a temporary break during the six months of hurricane season.
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> Dry air inherently lacks moisture, which makes it difficult for hurricanes to get going. If a tropical system manages to begin gathering strength when a Saharan Air Layer is above, the increased wind shear can pull the developing system apart.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/3 "2025-06-01T21:04:27Z")

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And we’ve already had [Tropical Storm Alvin](https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/alvin-will-bring-moisture-storms-to-the-us).

Waiting on Theodore and Simon to catch up.

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**Author:** ![Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e4f/32.png) [@Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_is_the_new_Analog)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/4 "2025-06-01T22:42:38Z")

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Worth noting that Alvin was a Pacific basin storm.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/5 "2025-06-02T01:08:40Z")

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The United States is almost certain to have at least one major storm make landfall. The current climate calls for it. It’s just a matter of where, and how bad it will be.

My money’s on something in the Atlantic coming ashore on the east coast.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/6 "2025-06-02T05:34:30Z")

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And it brought us rain in Tucson! _Dances around, splashing puddles_

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/7 "2025-06-03T02:56:10Z")

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Are there any graphics showing NOAA hurricane season predictions (i.e. for this century) and how they actually turned our?

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/8 "2025-06-03T03:07:47Z")

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**FEMA staff baffled after head said he was unaware of US hurricane season, sources say**

> Staff of the Federal Emergency Management Agency were left baffled on Monday after the head of the U.S. disaster agency said he had not been aware the country has a hurricane season, according to four sources familiar with the situation. The remark was made during a briefing by David Richardson, who has led FEMA since early May.

[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fema-staff-confused-after-head-said-he-was-unaware-us-hurricane-season-sources-2025-06-02/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fema-staff-confused-after-head-said-he-was-unaware-us-hurricane-season-sources-2025-06-02/)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/9 "2025-06-26T15:10:01Z")

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Here’s some more utterly foolish unnecessary excitement from the morons in Washington:

> **[Critical Hurricane Forecast Tool Abruptly Terminated](https://michaelrlowry.substack.com/p/critical-hurricane-forecast-tool)**
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> U.S. Department of Defense announced Tuesday it would no longer process and deliver data essential to most hurricane forecasts

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/10 "2025-07-01T16:54:44Z")

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But wait, there’s more:

> **[NOAA Proposes Permanently Closing Premiere Hurricane Research Institute](https://michaelrlowry.substack.com/p/noaa-proposes-permanently-closing)**
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> In its proposed 2026 budget released Monday, NOAA closes all federally funded weather and climate research labs, including the one responsible for maintaining the nation’s top hurricane models

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/11 "2025-07-01T18:35:55Z")

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I’m not sure that doesn’t belong in the Stupid MFers In The News thread.

What the hell do they think they are doing? Does the current administration think that hurricanes won’t happen if they’re not predicted?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/12 "2025-07-01T19:39:27Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> What the hell do they think they are doing? Does the current administration think that hurricanes won’t happen if they’re not predicted

I would love to know. Hurricanes don’t care what your political party is.

However if Mar a Lardo gets washed into the ocean, I would laugh. Heartily.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/13 "2025-07-01T19:42:46Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> However if Mar a Lardo gets washed into the ocean, I would laugh. Heartily

You’d have lots of company.

However, I gather that’s unlikely to happen unless a whole lot of other people, many of them reasonably innocent, also take a great deal of damage; up to and in some cases including their lives.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/14 "2025-07-01T19:55:11Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> What the hell do they think they are doing? Does the current administration think that hurricanes won’t happen if they’re not predicted?

They “think” (and I use that term loosely)

1. All weather science has been corrupted by belief in the fake human-caused climate change.
2. By destroying the entire federal weather service they will root out this evil.
3. Once nobody is following the climate, the important fossil fuels industries will face no threats from public outcry. Profit for them, their shareholders, and for their paid benefactors in DC.
4. Since cities don’t / can’t move, warning about hurricanes is useless: the same stuff will get destroyed whether it’s a surprise or not.
5. If there really is a need for hurricane prediction, some private investor will start a hurricane prediction company and sell the results to the public.
6. Since they are also shutting down FEMA, whatever happens due to a hurricane will not be the federal government’s responsibility to repair; that’s for local taxpayers and private insurers. “Local” and “private” are always good. “Federal” and “public” are never good.
7. All the money the Feds are no longer spending goes directly to tax cuts for the very wealthy.

See, when you explain it like this the “logic” is inescapable.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/15 "2025-07-01T19:59:53Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> They “think” (and I use that term loosely)
> 
> 1. All weather science has been corrupted by belief in the fake human-caused climate change.
> 2. By destroying the entire federal weather service they will root out this evil.
> 3. Once nobody is following the climate, the important fossil fuels industries will face no threats from public outcry. Profit for them, their shareholders, and for their paid benefactors in DC.
> 4. Since cities don’t / can’t move, warning about hurricanes is useless: the same stuff will get destroyed whether it’s a surprise or not.
> 5. Since they are also shutting down FEMA, whatever happens due to a hurricane will not be the federal government’s responsibility to repair; that’s for local taxpayers and private insurers. “Local” and “private” are always good. “Federal” and “public” are never good.
> 6. All the money the Feds are no longer spending goes directly to tax cuts for the very wealthy.

Also, possibly:

1. By getting the Federal government out of the weather business, it opens the door for private weather forecasting companies to expand to fill the available space.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/16 "2025-07-01T20:03:49Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Also, possibly:
> 
> 1. By getting the Federal government out of the weather business, it opens the door for private weather forecasting companies to expand to fill the available space.

Actually, you replied to my v1 post which didn’t make that point. I later inserted #5 to make that same point after you captured my post but before you completed yours.

Great minds …

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/17 "2025-07-01T20:14:55Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> > [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> > 1. By getting the Federal government out of the weather business, it opens the door for private weather forecasting companies to expand to fill the available space.
> 
> Actually, you replied to my v1 post which didn’t make that point. I later inserted #5 to make that same point after you captured my post but before you completed yours.

Of course, the private weather companies are getting their information from NOAA. All the other weather prediction people are also getting screwed.

Though maybe Musk thinks he’ll be able to replicate with his own satellites.

– I think you also missed 8:

The people making these decisions all think that they themselves have places on high ground/designed to survive hurricanes and are therefore themselves safe from damage, let alone from drowning or having the place blow down on top of them.

Some of them may be wrong about that.

(Why on earth does Discourse think that if I want to indent a paragraph I also want to shrink it and put it into a different font?)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/18 "2025-07-01T20:24:41Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> (Why on earth does Discourse think that if I want to indent a paragraph I also want to shrink it and put it into a different font?)

Because indention is a standard feature of computer programming languages. And not something anyone uses on ordinary paragraphs any more. So it assumes indented text is a snip from a computer program in a programming language. Something like this:

```auto
protected override int DoCompare(Item item1, Item item2)
{
	try
	{
		DateTime thisDate = ((DateField)item1.Fields["Create Date"]).DateTime;
		DateTime thatDate = ((DateField)item2.Fields["Create Date"]).DateTime;

		return thatDate.CompareTo(thisDate);
	}
	catch (Exception)
	{
		return 0; // Sorry, ran out of budget!
	}
}

```

If what you really wanted was to move the left margin in, so the whole paragraph, not just the first line, is pushed over there are three ways to do that.

Start it with an asterisk plus space like this:

\* The people making these decisions all think that they themselves have places on high ground/designed to survive hurricanes and are therefore themselves safe from damage, let alone from drowning or having the place blow down on top of them.

gives

- The people making these decisions all think that they themselves have places on high ground/designed to survive hurricanes and are therefore themselves safe from damage, let alone from drowning or having the place blow down on top of them.

OR

Start it with a number, period, space combo like this:

8. The people making these decisions all think that they themselves have places on high ground/designed to survive hurricanes and are therefore themselves safe from damage, let alone from drowning or having the place blow down on top of them.

gives

1. The people making these decisions all think that they themselves have places on high ground/designed to survive hurricanes and are therefore themselves safe from damage, let alone from drowning or having the place blow down on top of them.

(which is how I did my list.)  
OR use unmarked list codes at the front _and back_ of your paragraph(s) like this:

\<ul\>The people making these decisions all think that they themselves have places on high ground/designed to survive hurricanes and are therefore themselves safe from damage, let alone from drowning or having the place blow down on top of them.\</ul\>

gives

The people making these decisions all think that they themselves have places on high ground/designed to survive hurricanes and are therefore themselves safe from damage, let alone from drowning or having the place blow down on top of them.

See? Easy peasy. 😉

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/19 "2025-07-01T20:28:08Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> See? Easy peasy

- Thanks. Will make a note.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-hurricane-season/1019074/20 "2025-07-01T20:29:03Z")

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1. All ‘’‘hurycanes’‘’ are here by cancelled by this executive order.

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