# 2025 NFL Draft Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [April 24, 2025, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430 "2025-04-24T01:52:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/181 "2025-04-26T03:09:24Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I don’t quite get the Giants pick. Maybe they thought he was the best available. I think they have more pressing needs than the defensive line at this point. Agreed. Especially at DT. They run a 3-4 defense and have Dexter Lawrence as their starting DT. I guess they drafted him to spell sexy Dexy? I don’t love spending 3.01 on a long-term backup. No love for the offensive line? Just sticking with the garbage fire they’ve had for years? I know they feel like they significantly upgraded it last year, but on the field that “upgraded” OL was still somewhere between a sieve and paper mache. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/182 "2025-04-26T03:13:14Z")
Pete Carroll always had a checkered history drafting OLs. Now with the Raiders it feels like that pattern is continuing. Can’t say I like this Raiders draft at all. Kind of a dumpster fire. I’m predicting Sanders to the Jets at pick 110 tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/183 "2025-04-26T03:23:58Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Pete Carroll always had a checkered history drafting OLs. Yeah, he used to draft people who weren’t linemen but were big and athletic, with the idea that he could train them and they’d do well. And I watched over a decade of crappy OL play. It was a good thing that Russell Wilson was really good at scrambling and escaping sacks when his legs were young. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/184 "2025-04-26T03:25:24Z")
Lol, Shedeur headed to Day 3. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/185 "2025-04-26T03:28:36Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > > [@Loach](#): > > > > I don’t quite get the Giants pick. Maybe they thought he was the best available. I think they have more pressing needs than the defensive line at this point. > > Agreed. Especially at DT. They run a 3-4 defense and have Dexter Lawrence as their starting DT. I guess they drafted him to spell sexy Dexy? I don’t love spending 3.01 on a long-term backup. > > No love for the offensive line? Just sticking with the garbage fire they’ve had for years? I know they feel like they significantly upgraded it last year, but on the field that “upgraded” OL was still somewhere between a sieve and paper mache. The O line was better last year but that’s in comparison to the year before which was probably the worst line I’ve ever seen. I’m not saying Daniel Jones is great but he was running for his life most of the time. If they don’t improve the protection it doesn’t matter who they have as QB. And it doesn’t matter how good the defense is if the offense is three and out. Has anyone checked on Mel? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/186 "2025-04-26T03:39:43Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Has anyone checked on Mel? > **[Has ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. stopped his over-the-top cheerleading for Shedeur...](https://www.nj.com/sports/2025/04/has-espns-mel-kiper-changed-his-on-air-approach-after-his-support-for-a-qb-prospect.html?outputType=amp)** > > ESPN NFL analyst Mel Kiper Jr. sounds a lot differently on air when talking about quarterbacks after he was criticized for his support of Colorado's Shedeur Sanders Thursday. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/I7jhMsoqssI/maxresdefault.jpg "Mel Kiper Made NFL Draft Night All About Shedeur Sanders") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7jhMsoqssI) He probably needs a hug. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/187 "2025-04-26T04:00:22Z")
According to Mel it’s “disgusting” that no one picked Shaduer. To everyone on this side of the tv it’s obvious why he wasn’t picked. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/188 "2025-04-26T04:06:43Z")
Looking at that video makes me think that Mel should retire and ESPN should look to replace whoever was responsible for that broadcast. Cam Ward was going #1. It wasn’t a secret. Why were they only showing Shaduer highlights before the pick? My nephew works for ESPN. I’m glad he wasn’t involved in this. He did do the NBA draft. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/189 "2025-04-26T04:18:11Z")
I think all media analysts overlook the importance of personality and locker room fit. A physical monster who can overwhelm college opponents will fall if he doesn’t actually like playing football. A player will drop precipitously if they give coaches the impression they don’t need coaching. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/190 "2025-04-26T05:55:41Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > A physical monster who can overwhelm college opponents will fall if he doesn’t actually like playing football. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/HTAMpmv4vHQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders SONG COLAB??? #nfl #nfldraft #cfb #camward #sheduersanders") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTAMpmv4vHQ) ---
**Author:** ![Jegpeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jegpeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jegpeg)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/191 "2025-04-26T12:08:27Z")
Not sure whether this should go here, politics or factual questions! Given Trump’s comments on Sanders not being picked in the first round, and his attempts to get involved in the NFL could he issue an Executive Order compelling a team select him? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/192 "2025-04-26T14:29:38Z")
At this point, my guess is that Shedeur Sanders gets selected by Dallas. I think a lot of teams crossed him off their board because of the drama he’d bring to a team. Jerry Jones is the only person I can imagine who might enjoy the spectacle (or be deluded enough to think he can manage it). ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/193 "2025-04-26T14:33:15Z")
> [@Jegpeg](#): > > Given Trump’s comments on Sanders not being picked in the first round, and his attempts to get involved in the NFL could he issue an Executive Order compelling a team select him? As I understand it, executive orders outline the administration’s particular interpretation or directed execution of a particular, already-existing law; they cannot create law. I’d be surprised if there’s an existing law which could be used to compel a private corporation to hire a particular person for “reasons.” ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/194 "2025-04-26T14:37:12Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > I’d be surprised if there’s an existing law which would require a private corporation to hire a particular person for “reasons.” He could withhold funding. Does the league get federal money? Or he could no longer let the NFL fellate the military. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/195 "2025-04-26T16:14:40Z")
No funding and they gave up their tax exempt status a few years ago. But that was just a meaningless PR stunt for people who don’t understand what taxes are. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/196 "2025-04-26T16:51:40Z")
Bills get pick 109 from the Bears who got it from the Bills who got it from the Bears. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/197 "2025-04-26T17:58:35Z")
The Bears just drafted the first non-Combine player if we can trust the broadcast. Ruben Hyppolite II, LB out of Maryland, ran a 4.3 40 at his pro day so at least he can fly. Hopefully he is more than a special teams guy for us, we need to upgrade that 3rd LR spot for sure. He’s also got an awesome name. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/198 "2025-04-26T18:19:52Z")
LOL, Sanders ends up in Cleveland after all. 5th round, pick 144 overall. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/199 "2025-04-26T18:23:39Z")
That’s weird when they drafted Dillon Gabriel in the 3rd round. I don’t see the value of drafting two different QBs in the same draft. Have both compete? Then what do you do with the other one, try to trade? Because a second rookie QB has no value for a team. They’re not going to get much trade value out of a QB that doesn’t make the cut. Seems like a waste even in the 5th round. I take back what I said about them being smart. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430/200 "2025-04-26T18:26:54Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I don’t see the value of drafting two different QBs in the same draft. According to ESPN, this is the first time since 1976 that Cleveland has drafted two QBs in the same draft. Interesting, to say the least. ETA: the two quarterbacks drafted in 1976 by the Browns were Gene Swick and Craig Nagel. Neither ever played a down in the NFL, according to Pro-Football Reference. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-nfl-draft-thread/1017430.md?page=11)