And don’t forget that Grammy Award!
(ducks)
And don’t forget that Grammy Award!
(ducks)
I’m not really into any other acts of that period of American Punk/New Wave, except Television and the Cramps, so I couldn’t say. Is the rest of their stuff wholly unlike Whip It? Because it’s firmly in that style I don’t like, so I’ve never bothered to look at the rest.
Billy Idol
Joy Division/New Order
Cyndi Lauper
These three should have been in for a while.
I would have been hesitant about Billy Idol if I had not listened to some of his 80s output again recently, and realized it was pretty solid. I love Rebel Yell, and Eyes without a Face is a fine, delicate song. White Wedding, Flesh for Fantasy, Hot in the City, and Dancing with Myself are goofy fun.
I have no strong feelings about the others, apart from Oasis. Keep them out of it.
It’s like judging the Beatles based on “Yellow Submarine”.
Oasis?
If I want to listen to a song from some brothers who don’t get along I’ll listen to the Ramones.
Sibling rivalry wrecked Osasis. They could have easily written and produced two or three more great albums.
Noel is a very good song writer.
The two Pauls (Arthurs and McGuigan) were very good to. I like Bonehead’s rhythm guitar parts.
Now I need to find my cd’s and listen again.
OK, based on this, I watched a couple more of their songs (Uncontrollable Urge and Girl U Want were the first two the algorithms offered)
They were
a) the same kind of sound as Whip It, that I don’t like (what I’d call a vaguely CGBGs-Talking Heady sound),
b) therefore just as unpalatable to me as Whip It, and
c) seemed just as silly as it, and not in a way I like (B-52s were gimmicky in a good way, for instance)
So it seems I didn’t miss anything, only being exposed to Whip It before.
The first three acts I’d induct are Supertramp (insane to me they’re not in) Outkast, and Weird Al Yankovic. Only one of them is nominated.
Of the nominees, Outkast and The White Stripes are fairly easy choices.
Thanks for making the effort. They are not an easy band to get into and the social commentary requires a lot of careful digging.
At the risk of a whoosh, none of the members of the latter were related at all.
I tend to prefer the Punk-New Wave social commentary from the other side of the pond - your Jams and Elvis Costellos and the like. It tends to be more biting, less clever-clogs-art-student, to me.
Speaking of Billy Idol and goofy fun, the promo video for his new tour is pretty funny.
Interesting, as I am on the same side of the pond, albeit from the northern hemisphere.
I’m a massive fan of Talking Heads. I even splurged to get the re-mastered Stop Making Sense movie, which for some reason doesn’t seem to be available around here. With shipping, sales tax and all that it was close to US$1301. I bought it directly from A24.
I always thought that DEVO, B-52’s (I bought the single Rock Lobster on release) and to some extent Tubes (though calling them new wave is a stretch) were more subversive than their UK counterparts. Under the glitter there was an undercurrent lacking from Jam, Buzzcocks and the rest. Subtlety was not part of the UK bands.
As for Sir William Idol. The character played by Bill Nighy in Love, Actually, the washed up rocker who makes a horrible cover of a Christmas standard and looks as if he doesn’t really know WTF he’s doing. I keep thinking about that when I see this
1Only to realize I had to get a new BR-player to hook up to the computer. So more money…
Those aren’t hugely impressive numbers in this context. The band’s website claims they’ve sold 60 million albums; even taking them at their word, that wouldn’t put them close to the top 100 acts. And there are 50 acts who have more than twice that number of platinum records.
BTW, looking this up I noticed Mariah Carey has 14 platinum records and is 12th all time in record sales, which seems to put her squarely in the “too popular to keep out regardless of what the critics thought” zone.
If anyone’s interested, this website has a list of 200 candidates they think have been unjustly overlooked…Mott the Hoople, anyone?
Now there’s a band that needs to be in the Hall.
They (ahem) failed to include The Greatest of Them All, the ultimate benchmark by which all other bands are measured.
That is a pretty glaring omission in a list of that length, yeah. Clearly a much stronger case than, say, Moby Grape.