# 2025 SDMB Celebrity Death Pool

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2024, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010 "2024-12-01T05:01:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/401 "2025-01-26T22:02:18Z")

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> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#):
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> [Mike Hynson, the co-star of 'The Endless Summer,' passes away](https://www.surfertoday.com/surfing/mike-hynson-passes-away-at-82)

It’s a little-known fact that ‘The Endless Summer’ made its world debut in January of 1964 in Wichita, Kansas.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/402 "2025-01-29T01:16:44Z")

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[Dr. Loretta “Lee” Pfingstel Ford, EdD, RN, PNP, NP-C, CRNP, FAAN, FAANP](https://honoraryunsubscribe.com/loretta-ford/), who set up the first program that educated nurses to become Nurse Practitioners (at University of Colorado and originally in pediatrics, but as the concept expanded would eventually include all nursing disciplines) and would later become founding dean of the University of Rochester’s nursing school, died at 104.

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**Author:** ![Kitten\_Mitten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b782af/32.png) [@Kitten\_Mitten](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kitten_Mitten)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/403 "2025-01-29T04:07:45Z")

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It’s Taps for Ryan Whyte Maloney leaving 56 pts on the table.  
[‘The Voice’ Alum Ryan Whyte Maloney dies by suicide](https://people.com/voice-alum-ryan-whyte-maloney-dead-age-44-suicide-8781777)  
People say the last song he sang was Mash’s theme.

Where’s that handbasket. 🙊

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/404 "2025-01-29T04:25:17Z")

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You realize the lyrics to the MASH theme were written by Mike Altman, the director’s 14-y/o son, who made more in song royalties than his dad made directing the movie (because he did not get residuals in his contract).

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/405 "2025-01-29T17:50:26Z")

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Dude probably still getting paid when the show runs in re-runs. Lyric writers and Song writers split residuals for songs.

It’s why Gene Roddenberry wrote lyrics to the Star Trek theme. He basically screwed over the song writer of half the residuals even though the words don’t appear in the show or any of the movies.

Gene was quite the swindler moneymaker in some ways.

I mean, better than…uh, L. Ron Hubbard. At least Gene didn’t fabricate a cult.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/406 "2025-01-29T18:14:00Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> At least Gene didn’t fabricate a cult.

Well, uh …

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/407 "2025-01-29T21:17:24Z")

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> **[New Orleans Legend Pableaux Johnson Created Community With Each Bowl of Red...](https://www.foodandwine.com/pableaux-johnson-obituary-8781295)**
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> New Orleans photographer, writer, and cook Pableaux Johnson died January 27 at age 59. He is widely known for his work documenting the food culture and people of New Orleans, and for the Monday night red beans and rice dinners he hosted at his home...

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/408 "2025-01-30T01:50:00Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Dude probably still getting paid when the show runs in re-runs.

Is my memory bad? I remember the “suicide is painless” lyrics from the movie, but I only recall the music from the TV show, _sans_ words.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/409 "2025-01-30T02:10:41Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> > [@Mahaloth](#):
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> > Dude probably still getting paid when the show runs in re-runs.
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> Is my memory bad? I remember the “suicide is painless” lyrics from the movie, but I only recall the music from the TV show, _sans_ words.

You are correct. He still gets the royalties as one of the writers of the song. Roddenberry got royalties even though the lyrics were never sung. The only thing that matters is who has songwriter credit.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/410 "2025-01-30T02:35:50Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Is my memory bad? I remember the “suicide is painless” lyrics from the movie, but I only recall the music from the TV show, _sans_ words.

Oh, yes. But you get the royalties 50-50 no matter if the words are sung. That is why Gene Roddenberry is a schemer for writing words to the Star Trek theme and making money on a song he had nothing to do with.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/411 "2025-01-30T03:32:08Z")

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Roddenberry wasn’t the only one Carroll O’Connor has a writing credit for the closing theme for All in the Family. Like Star Trek, the theme has lyrics, but they aren’t used.

Contrast that to Hugh Wilson, the creator of WKRP in Cincinnati, who wrote the lyrics for the theme song, but didn’t take a credit for it.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/412 "2025-01-30T04:01:49Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> Contrast that to Hugh Wilson, the creator of WKRP in Cincinnati, who wrote the lyrics for the theme song, but didn’t take a credit for it.

But, who wrote the lyrics to the end theme?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/413 "2025-01-30T18:10:12Z")

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Someone fluent in Goon-babble.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/414 "2025-01-30T18:51:24Z")

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Singer Marianne Faithfull has died at 78.

> **[Marianne Faithfull](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Faithfull)**
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> Marianne Evelyn Gabriel Faithfull (29 December 1946 – 30 January 2025) was an English singer and actress. She achieved popularity in the 1960s with the release of her hit single "As Tears Go By" and became one of the lead female artists during the British Invasion in the United States.
> Born in Hampstead, London, Faithfull began her career in 1964 after attending a party for the Rolling Stones, where she was discovered by Andrew Loog Oldham. Her debut studio album Marianne Faithfull (1965, rel...

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/415 "2025-01-30T20:05:50Z")

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She was, IIRC, the first person to ever utter the word “fuck” onscreen.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/416 "2025-01-30T21:39:58Z")

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Marianne Faithful was one of those names from the 1960s I would see in books while growing up but was never really all that clear on who she was.

Somehow, I got the idea she was a famous girlfriend? Maybe with The Rolling Stones?

(I’m doing all this from memory, btw - now I’ll go read the article)

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/417 "2025-01-30T22:17:55Z")

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For some reason, I thought for a long time that Faithfull was the female singer on the Stones’ _Gimme Shelter_. I only relatively recently learned that she wasn’t.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/418 "2025-01-30T22:36:49Z")

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She _did_, however, sing backup on a [Metallica song](https://youtu.be/RDN4awrpPQQ?si=kcEFJO9Z6FHuH4Zr).

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/419 "2025-01-30T22:47:34Z")

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And she also sang _ **I got you** _ in a duett with David Bowie. Where she was famously naked underneath a nun’s costume (you can see at the very beginning of the video that there is something to this).

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2025-sdmb-celebrity-death-pool/1011010/420 "2025-01-30T23:02:22Z")

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For some reason, I had the impression that she was alluded to in _You Can’t Always Get What You Want_. Not sure where I got that idea.

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