# 21 gun salute for the Pope?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 14, 2008, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-gun-salute-for-the-pope/445264 "2008-04-14T06:42:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tabula\_Rasa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@Tabula\_Rasa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabula_Rasa)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-gun-salute-for-the-pope/445264/1 "2008-04-14T06:42:44Z")

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I think I’m liking what I see in this article:

[http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/13/pope.visit.ap/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/13/pope.visit.ap/index.html)

…but I’m leery of what a Bavarian-style 81st birthday for the pontiff at the White House will look like. I’m picturing a polka band trying to stick to hymns during a kegger with high-end schnitzel on the good china. “Doin’ a heckuva job, Popie.”

That, of course, is because I am a bad and biased person.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-gun-salute-for-the-pope/445264/2 "2008-04-14T07:06:15Z")

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I so want to see the YouTube video of that 21 gun salute…just what a Pope would dream for! Leave it to Dubya to include that…maybe they can fly in a few prisoners from Guantanamo Bay and demonstrate waterboarding during dinner?

And having Bavarian food?! Gee - just what I would want when I go to Europe - someone to have me over to their house and make me their version of a cheeseburger because, well, I have been gone from the home country for a grand total of 12 hours and already miss homestyle cookin’? Idiots. Give the guy a fuckin’ steak and a baked potato…that is what most Europeans come to the USA to eat!

I’ll bet George seats him next to Condi Rice at dinner - the Pope’s single and who knows, they might hit if off and get married!

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-gun-salute-for-the-pope/445264/3 "2008-04-14T07:27:27Z")

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[QUOTE=DMark]  
I so want to see the YouTube video of that 21 gun salute…just what a Pope would dream for! Leave it to Dubya to include that…maybe they can fly in a few prisoners from Guantanamo Bay and demonstrate waterboarding during dinner?

And having Bavarian food?! Gee - just what I would want when I go to Europe - someone to have me over to their house and make me their version of a cheeseburger because, well, I have been gone from the home country for a grand total of 12 hours and already miss homestyle cookin’? Idiots. Give the guy a fuckin’ steak and a baked potato…that is what most Europeans come to the USA to eat!

I’ll bet George seats him next to Condi Rice at dinner - the Pope’s single and who knows, they might hit if off and get married!  
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Palpy _won’t_ be eating.

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> But Benedict’s prayer service that evening with U.S. bishops at a famed Washington basilica preclude him from coming to the dinner, according to the White House. Catholic leaders will be there instead.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-gun-salute-for-the-pope/445264/4 "2008-04-14T07:33:49Z")

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[QUOTE=DMark]  
I’ll bet George seats him next to Condi Rice at dinner - the Pope’s single and who knows, they might hit if off and get married!  
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“I’ve eaten Mexican rice, I’ve eaten Japanese rice, I’ve eaten Indian rice, I’ve even eaten _wild_ rice…but I’ve never eaten Condi Rice.”

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**Author:** ![Lama\_Pacos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Lama\_Pacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lama_Pacos)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-gun-salute-for-the-pope/445264/5 "2008-04-14T11:11:18Z")

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Minor factual confusion here from the CNN article.

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> The Bush-Benedict get-together will be the 25th meeting between a pope and a sitting president.

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> Every president has met with the pope at least once, often more.

Unless some of those meetings were multi-president transtemporal extravaganzas, I don’t see how this could be possible.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-gun-salute-for-the-pope/445264/6 "2008-04-14T11:28:15Z")

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Moving thread from IMHO to MPSIMS.

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**Author:** ![Tabula\_Rasa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@Tabula\_Rasa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabula_Rasa)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-gun-salute-for-the-pope/445264/7 "2008-04-14T14:47:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Czarcasm]  
Moving thread from IMHO to MPSIMS.  
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Sorry. I’m still working on that delineation between my opinions and pointless stuff.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-gun-salute-for-the-pope/445264/8 "2008-04-14T14:59:31Z")

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The Pope is a head of state, right? Is it normal for heads of state to get a 21-gun salute?

Oh, and he isn;t single. He’s married to the Church.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-gun-salute-for-the-pope/445264/9 "2008-04-14T20:24:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Lama Pacos]

Unless some of those meetings were multi-president transtemporal extravaganzas, I don’t see how this could be possible.  
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They mean every president since Eisenhower.
