# 21-year-old fratboy Superdelegate; the statue of liberty is kaput, democracy is dead **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 13, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521 "2008-02-13T23:55:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/21 "2008-02-14T00:20:31Z")
Good for him. Maybe at least one vote won’t be swayed by lobbyists and blackmailers. ---
**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/22 "2008-02-14T00:23:18Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] He should be penalized for being particularly passionate and motivated to get involved in the process? [/QUOTE] Absolutely. Some dumb kid thinks it would be hilarious to run for office, and a bunch of idiots elect him because they want to live in an inspirational Rob Reiner movie. Nuke everything. ---
**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/23 "2008-02-14T00:24:26Z")
[QUOTE=wring] well that would be **why** the link didn’t work, right? if you screw up the coding on your link, you say ‘sorry’ and offer a fixed version, not (on preview, **Bryan** good show!) [/QUOTE] Wrong. It works perfectly on my computer and browser, so there’s something defective in the browser and brain of anyone who cannot access the page from that link. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/24 "2008-02-14T00:25:49Z")
[QUOTE=TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW] Wrong. It works perfectly on my computer and browser, so there’s something defective in the browser and brain of anyone who cannot access the page from that link. [/QUOTE] That’s because Firefox is smarter than you are and knows to remove them. Click “Reply” to your OP and you’ll clearly see them. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/25 "2008-02-14T00:26:29Z")
[QUOTE=TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW] Absolutely. Some dumb kid thinks it would be hilarious to run for office, and a bunch of idiots elect him because they want to live in an inspirational Rob Reiner movie. Nuke everything. [/QUOTE] Whew! For a second there, I thought you were just blowing things completely out of proportion, borne out of a complete lack of awareness of the details of his individual bio. Turns out, though, the situation is much more simple: You’re just an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/26 "2008-02-14T00:26:53Z")
[QUOTE=TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW] Wrong. It works perfectly on my computer and browser, so there’s something defective in the browser and brain of anyone who cannot access the page from that link. [/QUOTE] Sorry, I forgot you were an inconsequential asshole. My bad. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/27 "2008-02-14T00:27:01Z")
I fail to see what’s objectionable about Jason Rae being a superdelegate. I was a precinct captain at 18 and ran for national delegate at 19 (but didn’t win). Contrary to what you might think, not every college-age male is an alcohol-obsessed nimrod. Some of us have (or had) some idea of what’s going on in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/28 "2008-02-14T00:28:05Z")
[QUOTE=TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW] Some dumb kid thinks it would be hilarious to run for office, and a bunch of idiots elect him because they want to live in an inspirational Rob Reiner movie. Nuke everything. [/QUOTE] Do you have evidence which exists outside your head that he ran for office on a lark, and that people elected him because they’re living in a sappy moption picture? ---
**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/29 "2008-02-14T00:29:32Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] Is your entire problem the fact that he’s 21? He is an elected member of the DNC in Wisconsin. [/QUOTE] Yes. He’s too young to have even ever voted and cannot possibly understand what politics is. I’m sure that he thought it was impressive when he successfully bred and traded enough Pokemon, and thought politics was like that - Superdelegate votes - “Gotta catch 'em all!” Life is not Pokemon, and this kid is simply too young and inexperienced to have _any_ opinion on anything of this level. He should not be in this position of power. The fact is that people elected them because they want to live in an inspirational Ron Howard movie where > [@the poster for the upcoming feature film "He said yes: The Jason Rae Story" (Dir. Ron Howard)](#): > > And a child shall lead them. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/30 "2008-02-14T00:30:53Z")
Where are the fucking Jager-bombs promised in the OP? ---
**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/31 "2008-02-14T00:31:53Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] Do you have evidence which exists outside your head that he ran for office on a lark, and that people elected him because they’re living in a sappy moption picture? [/QUOTE] Yeah, my evidence is this black iron prison that we live in called “reality.” ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/32 "2008-02-14T00:32:10Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] Where are the fucking Jager-bombs promised in the OP? [/QUOTE] Like most of the other stuff which spews forth from the OP, they have no basis in reality. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/33 "2008-02-14T00:33:20Z")
[QUOTE=TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW] Yeah, my evidence is this black iron prison that we live in called “reality.” [/QUOTE] So, that’s a “no” then. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/34 "2008-02-14T00:33:23Z")
Look, if you are complaining about the superdelgate process en masse, that I can get behind. But I bet this kid is better informed and more conscientious of his decision that half the Superdelegates out there. ---
**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/35 "2008-02-14T00:34:14Z")
[QUOTE=TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW] Yes. He’s too young to have even ever voted and cannot possibly understand what politics is. I’m sure that he thought it was impressive when he successfully bred and traded enough Pokemon, and thought politics was like that - Superdelegate votes - “Gotta catch 'em all!” Life is not Pokemon, and this kid is simply too young and inexperienced to have _any_ opinion on anything of this level. He should not be in this position of power. The fact is that people elected them because they want to live in an inspirational Ron Howard movie where [/QUOTE] Sorry guys, I really should have gone for a Yu-Gi-Oh or Naruto or Avatar: The Last Airbendar reference; the Poket monster one is outdated and embarrassing. This is just a lot to deal with right now and I got frazzled. ---
**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/36 "2008-02-14T00:35:59Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] Where are the fucking Jager-bombs promised in the OP? [/QUOTE] Yo, let’s meet somewhere in Ravenswood and I’ll buy enough for us both to get permanently annihilated and wake up with a baby. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/37 "2008-02-14T00:36:45Z")
[QUOTE=TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW] Sorry guys, I really should have gone for a Yu-Gi-Oh or Naruto or Avatar: The Last Airbendar reference; the Poket monster one is outdated and embarrassing. This is just a lot to deal with right now and I got frazzled. [/QUOTE] Dude, what are you on, and can I have some? I’ll forgive you for the empty Jager-bomb promises. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/38 "2008-02-14T00:36:47Z")
So, **pounds head on the keyboard** , you’re saying you disagree with my idea to extend the franchise to 16-year-olds? I know nothing about him, but Jason Rae seems a lot more accomplished, intelligent, coherent and sober (wild guess on the last one) than **Stupid Internet Abbreviations**. I wonder if Rae is sitting around somewhere, bitching about the fact that idiots use the internet. Probably not. Which is to say to the OP: Get over it, man. You’re a loser, but that doesn’t mean everybody else is. [That’s my ultimate theory behind this guy, who is either unhinged or a troll: he sounds jealous of everybody in the world.] Go for a walk and find something else to complain about. Quick! I hear a child learning to spell the word “lobster!” Sic 'em! This shit is **VCO3** tarded. The whole superdelegate idea is very stupid, but the fact that Jason Rae is a superdelegate is not the problem. There is no reason a delegate should have to be old, and if he wants the responsibility and takes it seriously, since he meets all the criteria, why shouldn’t he be allowed to have it? Also, quit with the fucking big letters. You can get away with that shit if you’re being funny, but since you think it really expressed your poignant ire, it’s irritating. Then again, you seem to think you have worthwhile opinions, and I guess we have to agree to disagree on that point. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/39 "2008-02-14T00:37:10Z")
[QUOTE=TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW] This is just a lot to deal with right now and I got frazzled. [/QUOTE] _This_ is enough to get you frazzled? Seriously? If you’re for real and not just trolling (dubious, I know) you need to turn off the fucking computer and go seek the help of a qualified mental health professional. You need it. ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521/40 "2008-02-14T00:37:38Z")
[A 17-year-old was the youngest delegate to the 1996 Democratic National Convention](http://www.movingimage.us/cg96/index135.htm), [another 17-year-old the youngest at the 2000 Democratic National Convention](http://www.alternet.org/story/9640/) [and still another 17-year-old was the youngest at the 2004 Democratic National Convention](http://www.shfwire.com/story/youngest-delegate-17-leads-democratic-delegates-in-pledge) Looking at the Republicans, [the youngest delegate at the 2000 Republican National Convention was an 18-year-old](http://www.skiff.tcu.edu/SkiffWeb012501/througheyes.html), [the youngest delegate at the 1980 Republican National Convention was 19](http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20040612/ai_n14577577), [as was the youngest delegate to the 1976 Republican National Convention](http://www.cortezjournal.com/asp-bin/article_generation.asp?article_type=news&article_path=/news/05/news050709_5.htm) In other words, this guy is more or less certainly not going to be the youngest attendee of either of the main political conventions, and it is no more worthy to scream about this delegate than any of the other ones his age or younger that have attended previous conventions, the coming conventions, or conventions in the future. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/21-year-old-fratboy-superdelegate-the-statue-of-liberty-is-kaput-democracy-is-dead/437521.md?page=3)