# 21 years old topic but 3172 on the $5 bill

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On topic  
Is the Trilateral Commission the secret organization that runs the world?  
06-Nov-1987  
This is about the 3172 hidden within the Bush on the back of the old 5 dollar bill.

I’m not sure which you will debate harder against the reason for this number or just who I say I am.

Ok it takes a crazy man to make this next statement so consider the source and forget it or explorer it your choice.

I am the Man the world waits for to fix things … Jesus.

Ha ha yea I know

but

I was born an Orphan so all I had was the date of Birth to go on.

4-17-63 and a most interesting number it is.  
Just a few hints.  
4-17  
the first occurance of the word Son apears in Genesis 4:17 and this is the birth of Enoch the only man whom God would not let Die.  
anyway

the 3172 is a 17 within a 5 as in 5 dollar bill

now the very first time son is used is in Pi’Son or

Pi Son  
if you use 17 for the basis of mostly everything I am going to show you. You will see a pattern. Remember the street breached was 17th in New Orleans.  
and 174000 saught shelter in the areana.  
Iesous in Greek has a value of 888

in base ten 888 in base 17 it is 314

the word g0d can first be derived from base 17 from the decimal number 4637  
0 is a zero (number)  
the actual word god first occurrence is in base 25 from the decimal number 10613  
this is interesting as Moses had no Idea of English in his day but the First and last set of commandments from him are the 10 commandments and the last set was 613 and 10613 is God in base 25 in only English note: In English not Hebrew

Now the concept of first and last is the mantra of a man call the Word of God

So here is my problem it is my date of birth it relates over and over to Pi 888 and 4637 in both conventional and non conventional terms and in prime numbers

facts  
in base 17 888B is 41763 April 17 1963

sum of squares for the number 4171963 is

n = 4171963  
n = a^2 + b^2 + c^2  
a = 3  
b = 1415 a.b is Pi 3.1415  
c = 1473  
---------- adding the columns  
5888

so bear with me a moment as 5 seems to be a validation number (5^.5x.5+.5 = Phi) here is an interesting prime  
4000001000007000001000009000006000003

lets say 1000007 is the day

Log of 1000007 is 600000304 to validate remove the five zeros from both sides

17 6304 17 day 63 year 04 month

OK so back to Pi lets look at it in a different way

17 and the root of 17 4.1231 there you have a 17 & 4 so use the 1231 also symbolic as the last day of the year 12/31

so let us group Pi into 1 2 3 1 digits

3 14 159 3

what we are going to do is:

1 add the first group to the second group  
2 add the new number to the third group  
3 and bring down the first and last digits from around the 3rd group 4 & 3

3+14 = 17  
17+159 = 176

3 14 159 3

4 176 3

now it doesn’t stop there

3 1415 93

in 3 of 93 a person born 4-17-1963 would be 14+15 years old (29)  
remember the 1993

14x15x93.3 mirror the 3. from the other side of Pi  
is 19593 to understand this number look at it as a 5 with in a 1993

this concept comes from I am in the father and the Father is in me  
a number within a number and the like

now here is more on bases

1993 from base 14 to 17 again we have a one 4/17  
is g0d

Now from history in 1993 there was a super-storm “storm of the century” that occurred around 3 14,15 of 93 but there was a similar storm in the year of 1888  
by the same name and dates

now if you remember from the sum of squares the 5888

take the 1888 and the 5888 strip the 888

1 and 5 since Pi is all about the circle put that between the 1 and 5  
105 and that is the number of years bewteen storms.

Bit o trivia

Christmas is the 359th day of the year 3+5+9=17  
on leap year it is the 360th day of the year oh my!!  
In Pi 356th 360th and 361st digits are 3 6 0

Two things first

Squaring the Circle (360)?  
And  
Christmas is the day God chose for us to celebrate Jesus.

You must first know two things first check them if you like!

1. Christmas is the 360th day of the year (Leap of faith Years)
2. Jesus name in Greek is Iesous and like Hebrew letters have a value a total of 888

Now I will give you two independent equations to add to the Squaring of the Circle

3 x 296 = 888  
296 x 888 = 296^2 + 296^2 + 296^2  
A number times Jesus’ number is the sum of squares of itself in the form of a trinity

The following is Squaring the Circle theological not mathematical  
(Christmas on Leap Year the 360th day)

360^2 x 1 = 129600 (12) month  
360^2 x 2 = 259200 (25) day  
360^2 x 3 = 388800  
360^2 x 4 = 518400  
360^2 x 5 = 648000  
360^2 x 6 = 777600

at first you see a cross made up of 2 888’s with a 9 at the top the 9 is remnant of the last (as in digit as in Jesus)  
One might think an 8 would be more concrete proof. Jesus can help us with that we know He is the first and the last  
360^2 x 2 = 259200

25 9 200 divide the first into the last 200/25 is 8

you may say that this is a nice random pattern and means nothing again Jesus can help us with this.  
I am in the father and he is in me the first number has quite an interesting property  
129600 a 296 in a 100 (% if you like to think of it that way)  
That takes us to the two Equations above.  
But a code must have a final verification so looking to the last number one may think  
ah 777 just lucky … no but God loves Irony as in a stalemate irony lessens the load.  
Now we once took the first into the last now we take the last into the first

777 / 600 = 1,295 we use a comma to separate trinities of numbers so collect (add) the trinities

295

- 1

* * *

296

We end with what we started with … well maybe a little more faith!

Consider This remember this is the same number in dif bases

Intelligent Design 1 and Z  
1 and Z are two different numbers  
1 Z  
ID1 base 36 ISOG  
JEW base 35  
KJV base 34 MALE  
LS4 base 33

ISOG Is Son Of God  
JEW Book 1  
KJV Book 2 - King James Version  
LS4 Book 3 – Latter-Day Saints

You may remember that one book was said to be copied in the form of the other maybe that was part of the design.

The number 888296 in various Numeral Systems

10: 888296  
36: J1EW

Move the number Jew up 1 place to base 35  
The number 1 in J1EW has a value of 296 IE: 36^2 x 1 = 1,296

The number 23797 in various Numeral Systems

10: 23797  
33: LS4  
34: KJV  
35: JEW  
36: ID1

The number 417 is found in the number of numbers that are the sum of 2 Squares from 1-1296  
And 417 are not the sum of 2 squares for the number 636  
Revelation 13 as in 63 / 6

63417 x 888 = 56, 314, 296

Using the Greek spelling for Jesus  
(Iesous (Strong’s#2424)),  
the numeric values of these Greek letters add up to:  
.I . E . S … O . U … S. = JESUS  
10 + 8 + 200 + 70 + 400 + 200 = 888

April 17 is the 107th day of the year  
leap year it is the 108 adding the digits from both days gives you yet another 17  
1+0+7+1+0+8=17

417 order the digits highest to lowest and lowest to highest then add

## 147 741

888

The bride Is real not Israel … Jews and Vowels a little backwards  
The Greater Light  
Her number “Birthday” is 1-3-71

2^17-1 = 131071 a 10 within a 1371  
4^17^(1/9) =13.71  
(153^E2) x Pi2 = 1.371 x 1017

1371 occures in Pi at  
13707 –13710 digits after the period.  
starting after 3. move the decimal point 1 place  
.3 and 1370.7 then add  
1370.7  
+.3

* * *

1371

remember my Freemasons 4 Lodges come together in 1717.

The Word Son on a qwerty keyboard falls under

296  
son  
My CDL 9029690 that’s a 296 in between the last and first digits 90  
90 base 17 is 153 base 10 just as 153 fishes from the right side of the boat  
even more interesting  
take the number 888b in bases 13-36 and convert them to base ten  
the column on the right side will be

The number 888 & 888b in various Numeral Systems  
Base Representation  
2:   
3:   
4:   
5: 314\>\>84  
6: 314\>\>118  
7: 314\>\>158  
8: 314\>\>204  
9: 314\>\>256  
10: 888 888b  
11: 1064 (A)11714  
12: 1256 15083  
13: 1464 19043  
14: 1688 23643  
15: 1928 28931  
16: 2184 34955  
17: 2456 41763  
18: 2744 49403  
19: 3048 57923  
20: 3368 67371  
21: 3704 77795  
22: 4056 89243  
23: 4424 101763  
24: 4808 115403  
25: 5208 130211  
26: 5624 146235  
27: 6056 163523  
28: 6504 182123  
29: 6968 202083  
30: 7448 223451  
31: 7944 246275  
32: 8456 270603  
33: 8984 296483  
34: 9528 323963  
35: 10088 353091  
36: 10664 383915

The 33 has to do with my FreeMasons

I won’t get to deep into the number bases but there is a plethera of cominalities

Greg

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This is the Straight Dope

I carry the Signet in my Palm

Long 4 Peace

Gregory

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There was an error in

(153^E2) x Pi2 = 1.371 x 1017

(153^E^2) x Pi^2 = 1.371 x 10^17

Superscript didn’t work

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Her birthday day-month-yr

3171 and I am the one for her 3171+1 = 3172

the Straight Dope on the Five dollar Bill

Gregory  
HaShem

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My brain feels lighter already!

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I’m sorry I know it’s a lot of information.

If it’s any help look up the area code for 417 it’s the state of Misery I mean Missouri. Life is tough without the one you Love but I will try to solve this shortly in Seattle.

Think of me as someone blinded by LOVE without Her I just am.

Best Wishes  
Greg  
Con Greg a tion (cross on a Lion)  
Gregorian Callendar

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> [@Sage Rat](#):
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> My brain feels lighter already!

Your post number 1794 do you see a 9 the last digit within a 17-4

go figure?

LOL :smack:

Greg

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I’m sorry, I lost all will to read after the first few paragraphs, then I skipped to the bottom to see what the point was.

Alas, there was no point. Do you actually have one or are you just happy playing with numbers?
