# 22nd Annual Super Bowl Early Picks Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [January 6, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635 "2025-01-06T15:40:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/101 "2025-01-27T22:27:52Z")
What the hell? The SB Early Picks thread has come down to multiple people with the same picks on many occasions. This about pure, unbridled competition. If it results in a tie due to the existing rules, so be it, but don’t debase the contest by trying to declare yourselves co-winners ahead of time. ---
**Author:** ![Pheoinix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7993a0/32.png) [@Pheoinix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pheoinix)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/102 "2025-01-27T22:54:20Z")
Might as well play on and see how things work out. I’m not sure if my analysis for the final week is correct though. (I need a total of at least 49 points from both teams combined) ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/103 "2025-01-27T23:02:00Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > declare yourselves co-winners ahead of time. Declare all you want, but the numbers won’t lie. It will either be a tie or a clear winner. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/104 "2025-01-27T23:06:16Z")
If you say so but I preemptively declare myself to be the winner. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/105 "2025-01-28T14:59:01Z")
No good sportsmanship allowed in the SB Early Picks. This is a battle to the end, and a tie just means changing the rules for next year: Still Alive **Pheoinix** : Chiefs 27, Eagles 24 **smithsb** : Chiefs 24, Eagles 21 Out **Locrian** : Eagles 28, ~~Bills~~ 27 **muldoonthief** : Eagles 28, ~~Bills~~ 21 **Railer13** : Chiefs 26, ~~Vikings~~ 24 **Munch** : Chiefs 31, ~~Rams~~ 10 **Jegpeg** : Chiefs 27, ~~Packers~~ 24 **Baker** : Chiefs 31, ~~Lions~~ 28 **Jackknifed\_Juggernaut** : Chiefs 31, ~~Lions~~ 23 **Zoobi** : Chiefs 27, ~~Lions~~ 24 **zimaane** : ~~Bills~~ 35, Eagles 24 **Ball\_Houtham** : ~~Rams~~ 30, Chiefs 24 **Mean\_Mr.Mustard** : ~~Lions~~ 28, Chiefs 17 **pirviii** : ~~Lions~~ 35, Chiefs 20 **ShadowFacts** : ~~Lions~~ 28, Chiefs 24 **solost** : ~~Lions~~ 31, Chiefs 27 **LoneRhino** : ~~Bills~~ 27, ~~Commanders~~ 17 **borschevsky** : ~~Bills~~ 34, ~~Vikings~~ 27 **SenorBeef** : ~~Bills~~ 33, ~~Lions~~ 27 **Shoeless** : ~~Bills~~ 24, ~~Lions~~ 21 **Strenger** : ~~Bills~~ 38, ~~Lions~~ 35 **Velocity** : ~~Bills~~ 35, ~~Lions~~ 31 **AlsoNamedBort** : ~~Bills~~ 27, ~~Buccaneers~~ 24 **Telemark** : ~~Vikings~~ 31, ~~Bills~~ 24 **Atamasama** : ~~Lions~~ 27, ~~Bills~~ 25 **Bullitt** : ~~Lions~~ 31, ~~Bills~~ 27 **garygnu** : ~~Lions~~ 40, ~~Bills~~ 34 **Happy\_lendervedder** : ~~Lions~~ 41, ~~Bills~~ 31 **Justin\_Bailey** : ~~Lions~~ 34, ~~Bills~~ 31 **OldManLogan** : ~~Lions~~ 35, ~~Bills~~ 31 **Si\_Amigo** : ~~Lions~~ 24, ~~Bills~~ 17 **dalej42** : ~~Ravens~~ 41, ~~Vikings~~ 10 **Hamlet** : ~~Ravens~~ 31, ~~Vikings~~ 13 **Wilson** : ~~Ravens~~ 34, ~~Vikings~~ 22 **Chisquirrel** : ~~Packers~~ 31, ~~Steelers~~ 25 **Jasmine** : ~~Lions~~ 23, ~~Ravens~~ 20 **peccavi** : ~~Lions~~ 44, ~~Ravens~~ 38 **RobotDevilDog** : ~~Lions~~ 27, ~~Ravens~~ 17 **Saint\_Cad** : ~~Lions~~ 28, ~~Ravens~~ 10 **TroutMan** : ~~Lions~~ 38, ~~Ravens~~ 23 **Hal\_briston** : ~~Steelers~~ 24, ~~Lions~~ 23 **2gigch1** : ~~Ravens~~ 34, ~~Lions~~ 17 **dirtball** : ~~Ravens~~ 27, ~~Lions~~ 24 **Frosted\_Glass** : ~~Ravens~~ 28, ~~Lions~~ 24 **Jahiegel2.0** : ~~Ravens~~ 31, ~~Lions~~ 30 **Kimble** : ~~Ravens~~ 35, ~~Lions~~ 31 **SuntanLotion** : ~~Ravens~~ 24, ~~Lions~~ 6 **hajario** : ~~Chargers~~ 34, ~~Lions~~ 28 ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/106 "2025-01-28T17:40:21Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > No good sportsmanship allowed in the SB Early Picks. This is a battle to the end, and a tie just means changing the rules for next year: Damn straight! FWIW, I’d say make the next tiebreaker be "closest to predicted score **of the winner**. So in this case, a final score of 27-21 would be a tie under the current rules, but would make Pheoinix the winner with this proposed 7th tiebreaker. That or tie their arms together and make them dance fight it out with knives, “Beat It” style. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/107 "2025-01-29T04:44:09Z")
A knife fight? 😨 Dude, I’m 75+ years old; I get cut and bruised just getting out of bed in the middle of the night and bumping into things. Perhaps something _slightly_ tamer like thumb wrestling? ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/108 "2025-01-31T04:30:36Z")
How about spitwads at 7 paces? ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/109 "2025-02-10T02:30:09Z")
So, no one wins? ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/110 "2025-02-10T03:28:50Z")
I’m claiming the championship because … reasons! Still okay with co-champion. Printing my new business cards as we speak communicate. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/111 "2025-02-10T03:42:57Z")
The claim by @smithsb notwithstanding, @Pheoinix is the winner, correct? ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/112 "2025-02-10T03:47:27Z")
I don’t know. The only tiebreaker they don’t tie on is > [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > 1. Closest to individual scores And when you do the math on how far off they are: Pheoinix: Chiefs 5; Eagles 16 (total of 21) smithsb: Chiefs 2; Eagles 19 (total 21) I’m not sure any tiebreaker in the list works. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/113 "2025-02-10T04:10:35Z")
It should go to **pirvii** , who picked the loser correctly and was closest to the final score. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/114 "2025-02-10T04:11:59Z")
I still thought Eagles would win us a Lombardi at 28-24. Much closer than what really happened! ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/115 "2025-02-10T04:44:59Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > It should go to **pirvii** , who picked the loser correctly and was closest to the final score. But the second tiebreaker is picking both teams, which would eliminate @pirviii. > [@peccavi](#): > > And when you do the math on how far off they are: > > Pheoinix: Chiefs 5; Eagles 16 (total of 21) > > smithsb: Chiefs 2; Eagles 19 (total 21) That’s a good point. I (probably mistakenly) assumed that total points would be the fifth tiebreaker. Total points scored was 62. @Pheoinix predicted 51 total points; @smithsb predicted 45 total points. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/116 "2025-02-10T05:10:06Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > That’s a good point. I (probably mistakenly) assumed that total points would be the fifth tiebreaker. Total points scored was 62. @Pheoinix predicted 51 total points; @smithsb predicted 45 total points. I thought the same thing, but then I noticed the tiebreaker called out “individual scores”, so I tried to figure out how to do that (I’m open to alternatives that actually break the tie). Closest to total points probably ought to be one of the tiebreakers. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/117 "2025-02-10T05:30:27Z")
I would think that closer to the winning score would take precedence over closer to the losing score. ---
**Author:** ![Pheoinix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7993a0/32.png) [@Pheoinix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pheoinix)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/118 "2025-02-10T05:50:08Z")
I also thought the 5th tiebreaker was closest to total points. Closest to actual points for both teams is always going to be the same if both players picked the same margin of victory ---
**Author:** ![pirviii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pirviii/32/3233_2.png) [@pirviii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pirviii)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/119 "2025-02-10T06:52:03Z")
Only works if it’s Detroit and not Philly, but damn I was close. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635/120 "2025-02-10T14:50:10Z")
We resolved this last year, I just forgot to update the wording of it to clarify. The 5th tiebreaker is team agnostic. It’s the closest to the winning and losing scores. Pheonix was 13 off from the winning score plus 2 off from the losing score = 15 smithsb was 16 off from the winning score plus 1 off from the losing score = 17 **Pheonix** is this years winner! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/22nd-annual-super-bowl-early-picks-thread/1012635.md?page=7)