# 24 hours and no one has pitted the Youtube shooter? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 5, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848 "2018-04-05T03:29:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/61 "2018-04-05T14:33:42Z")
1. A lot of times, when a bad guy breaks into a home and the householder starts waving a gun at him, the bad guy simply takes the gun away from him. It’s a thing, with bad guys. 2. If you’re going to pit Green Nasim, you should mention her terrifying eyes. I’m really happy her YouTube videos have been taken down, because I would probably go look at them just to scare myself. Objectively an attractive person, but there’s something way odd about her eyes. 3. I still like those Clintons! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/62 "2018-04-05T15:24:04Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Well, to be honest it hasn’t always been a dystopian shithole. We were once a pretty good, law-abiding country. You’ve said this often enough, but to date you’ve been too chickenshit to tell us when this was. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/63 "2018-04-05T15:26:24Z")
> [@Norse](#): > > Rape at the national level, number of police-recorded offenses > Rate per 100,000 population, 2010 > Sweden 63.5 > Australia 28.6 > Belgium 27.9 > United States 27.3 > New Zealand 25.8 > Norway 19.2 > Finland 15.2 > Ireland 10.7 > Austria 10.4 > Germany 9.2 This is explained by Scandinavian ( and especially Swedish ) definition being much wider and women in Scandinavia aren’t afraid to go to police. In that sense this is pretty useless. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/64 "2018-04-05T15:33:12Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You’ve said this often enough, but to date you’ve been too chickenshit to tell us when this was. We’re safe, he’s not from around here. By here I mean Earth. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/65 "2018-04-05T15:55:15Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > So, to the OP, HOW THE HELL DID THE SHOOTER MANAGE TO GET A GUN TO SHOOT PEOPLE? > > That’s right, even loony vegan/PETA/crazy women can get a fucken gun in the US. > > I pit the shooter, and the stupidly loose regulations in the US that allow loons to own a gun. Unknown to me at this time. I haven’t heard of anything in her past that would have prevented her from legally purchasing a firearm. > [@SaneBill](#): > > Has Projammer EVER pitted any other shooter ? > All I remember is him giving participation trophies. I haven’t needed to. All the ones perpetrated by white males get threads within about 30 minutes of it making the news. > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [The thread is over here.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=852308) > You’re welcome, OP. Female vegan PETA shooter only rates mundane and pointless instead of a full on pit. Gotcha. So much for progressive feminism. > [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > 1. A lot of times, when a bad guy breaks into a home and the householder starts waving a gun at him, the bad guy simply takes the gun away from him. It’s a thing, with bad guys. > > 2. If you’re going to pit Green Nasim, you should mention her terrifying eyes. I’m really happy her YouTube videos have been taken down, because I would probably go look at them just to scare myself. Objectively an attractive person, but there’s something way odd about her eyes. > > 3. I still like those Clintons! 1. Cite for ‘a lot of times’? Sure it has happened, but I’d bet that more often the bad guy goes to the hospital or morgue. 2. Going to have to agree with you on that one. All the pics I’ve seen look like something from a wax museum. Including the [one where she was photo shopped to be a green eyed white woman](https://bluntforcetruth.com/news/media-manufactures-green-eyed-white-skinned-iranian-youtube-killer/). Not saying that anyone considers Mashable a credible news source. But still, what was the point? 3. No accounting for taste. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/66 "2018-04-05T16:06:32Z")
Her looks have exactly what to do with any of this again? ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/67 "2018-04-05T16:06:41Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > Female vegan PETA shooter only rates mundane and pointless instead of a full on pit. Gotcha. So much for progressive feminism. Maybe it has something to do with this librul way of seeing more than just the surface: > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > However to address the query presented by the OP, the poor woman was clearly mentally ill, and generally people are given a pass from criticism for their actions whenever little doubt exists that they are genuinely troubled and aren’t capable of thinking straight. I feel sorry for her. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/68 "2018-04-05T16:13:31Z")
The shooter indeed has a somewhat weird face, but that aside… the OP’s accusation of hypocrisy is ridiculous and his skills at accuracy questionable at best, and that’s just my opinion based on this thread since I don’t remember noticing him before. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/69 "2018-04-05T16:13:47Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > All the ones perpetrated by white males get threads within about 30 minutes of it making the news. I’m looking for all those threads involving shooters that haven’t killed anyone but themselves-cite, please? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/70 "2018-04-05T16:18:19Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > … > Female vegan PETA shooter only rates mundane and pointless instead of a full on pit. Gotcha. So much for progressive feminism. > … You know, you could have just done the pitting yourself. Instead, this is all you had: > [@Projammer](#): > > Oh wait. She’s a vegan, Iranian, PETA, democrat, so doesn’t fit any liberal narrative other than using a gun. > > So to date, PETA has produced more mass shooters than the NRA. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/71 "2018-04-05T16:48:29Z")
While definitely pitworthy, that wasn’t the point of this thread. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the fact that no one had done so more than a day after the event while someone would have been racing to start the thread if the shooter had been a white male. So far all I’ve seen in response is the expected personal attacks instead of any attempt to address the issue. But no ill will on my part as that’s all I expected. So by all means, carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/72 "2018-04-05T16:56:43Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > While definitely pitworthy, that wasn’t the point of this thread. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the fact that no one had done so more than a day after the event while someone would have been racing to start the thread if the shooter had been a white male. > > So far all I’ve seen in response is the expected personal attacks instead of any attempt to address the issue. > > But no ill will on my part as that’s all I expected. > > So by all means, carry on. All you’ve shown is that you would use a personal tragedy to make cheap political points. If you had a point to make, you could point out all those threads [del]the boogymen[/del]liberals made concerning situations where shooters didn’t kill anyone but themselves. Can you back up your claim or not? ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/73 "2018-04-05T17:00:04Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > While definitely pitworthy, that wasn’t the point of this thread. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the fact that no one had done so more than a day after the event while someone would have been racing to start the thread if the shooter had been a white male. > > So far all I’ve seen in response is the expected personal attacks instead of any attempt to address the issue. > > But no ill will on my part as that’s all I expected. > > So by all means, carry on. > [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I didn’t realize we were pitting every single shooter now. > [@E-DUB](#): > > Nobody even died other than the shooter herself, right? > [@Biotop](#): > > On average there are more than 33,000 deaths in the U.S. from firearms each year. We’re going to need a bigger forum. > [@Isamu](#): > > I was waiting for more information. Sorry for the delay. > [@Nava](#): > > Are we only including those who kill more than four American citizens in the USA using one or more guns, or do we also accept variations? I understand the pittee in this case didn’t even reach the body count for a mass murder. Do we stop at “one of the four wasn’t even a permanent resident yet”, or go all the way down to “threatening a foreign citizen with a knife on foreign soil”? If one of the deceased was a Dreamer, does that one count? > [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Just like the recent Texas bomber got his very own pitting because he was raised as a fundamentalist Christian? Except…there’s not one. > > You’re so full of shit your eyes are brown. > [@Isamu](#): > > It’s hard to get worked up about this case because so far there are no murders (yet) and, so far it seems that it was just basically a sad person lashing out and commiting suicide. I actually left some out, since I didn’t want to clog up this page too much. But I think you get my point; you’re factually wrong to claim that “all I’ve seen in response is the expected personal attacks” (unless you haven’t read the responses), and factually wrong that no-one has attempted to address the issue. Perhaps you find these attempts lacking; perhaps you disagree with them, or even find them foolish. But you cannot honestly deny that there are people who did not attack you personally. You cannot honestly deny that no-one tried to address the issue at hand. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/74 "2018-04-05T17:00:07Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > While definitely pitworthy, that wasn’t the point of this thread. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the fact that no one had done so more than a day after the event while someone would have been racing to start the thread if the shooter had been a white male. > > So far all I’ve seen in response is the expected personal attacks instead of any attempt to address the issue. > > But no ill will on my part as that’s all I expected. > > So by all means, carry on. We’re hypocrites because we didn’t pit her within 24 hours? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/75 "2018-04-05T17:00:29Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > While definitely pitworthy, that wasn’t the point of this thread. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the fact that no one had done so more than a day after the event while someone would have been racing to start the thread if the shooter had been a white male. I honestly don’t think that’s the case here. So far as I can tell, politics had nothing to do with this and, unfortunately, in today’s culture, this is barely a blip on the news radar. If it were a white male in the exact same situation, I, too, would not expect a pit thread here, except perhaps about gun control. What is there to pit? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/76 "2018-04-05T17:07:46Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **Czarcasm** , about **Starving Artist** : > > You’ve said this often enough, but to date you’ve been too chickenshit to tell us when this was. That’s easy. Back when it was legal to treat most of the population like shit, the people who were doing so were law-abiding. But now that it’s not legal to do that any more, the people who still do aren’t law-abiding. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/77 "2018-04-05T17:12:48Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > So far all I’ve seen in response is the expected personal attacks instead of any attempt to address the issue. Ah, poor you. You poor thing. BTW, there is zero indication that this woman was supported in her attack by anyone other than her self, and certainly not PETA. So your essential premise—“PETA has produced more mass shoooters than the NRA”—is objectively untrue. But poor you. Everyone is attacking you because of their hypocrisy, not your factually incorrect, poisened well claim and the brazen attempts at diversion by your trollish friends. Poor, poor you. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/78 "2018-04-05T17:16:35Z")
Could someone please give **Projammer** a ball so that he can declare victory, take his ball and go home? ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/79 "2018-04-05T17:24:37Z")
I think it’s too early to talk about this. But I would like to offer my thought and prayers to everyone at YouTube… ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/80 "2018-04-05T17:40:44Z")
Trump did something stupid and hypocritical yesterday(\*) and there was no outrage from **Projammer** or the other self-appointed Denouncers of Hypocrisy. _ **Hypocrite!** _ (\* - Actually, I haven’t checked the news lately. But the assumption that Trump did something stupid and hypocritical yesterday seems safe.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848.md?page=5)