# 24 hours and no one has pitted the Youtube shooter? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 5, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848 "2018-04-05T03:29:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/81 "2018-04-05T17:49:45Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I honestly don’t think that’s the case here. So far as I can tell, politics had nothing to do with this and, unfortunately, in today’s culture, this is barely a blip on the news radar. If it were a white male in the exact same situation, I, too, would not expect a pit thread here, except perhaps about gun control. What is there to pit? If she’d attacked any place less famous than YouTube, nobody outside of the state where it happened would have heard of it. Maybe the county. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/82 "2018-04-05T18:01:06Z")
I mean, yeah, I guess “don’t kill or try to kill people. Killing people is bad. I don’t care if you’re black, white, cis, trans, citizen, immigrant, right-wing, left-wing, top, bottom, believer, atheist, jock, nerd, carnivore, vegan, occidental, oriental, tab-indenter, space-indenter, etc.” What about this story makes it particularly pittable that you would expect for it to deserve its own thread? I mean, yeah, fuck that asshole who shot up Youtube. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/83 "2018-04-05T19:04:32Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > You ask much of them, my friend. Perhaps too much. Undoubtedly. 🙂 > [@Chronos](#): > > Back when it was legal to treat most of the population like shit, the people who were doing so were law-abiding. But now that it’s not legal to do that any more, the people who still do aren’t law-abiding. While I would certainly dispute that “most” people were treated like shit back then, I’ll leave that argument for another time. The idea however that “law-abiding” and racism, et. al are inseparable and we can’t have one without the other is yet another example of how there’s simply no accounting for the liberal thought process. > [@jshore](#): > > Actually, homicide rates that did go up in the latter part of the 20th century have now fallen back to the level they were at around 1950. Hip, hip, hooray! After half a century the murder rates have finally fallen back to where they were pre-counterculture fuckupery. Probably because more and more people have been buying guns to protect themselves in the aftermath of the explosion in murder and overall crime that occurred beginning in the late sixties. > [@jshore](#): > > Over the long term (i.e., since the 1700s), the homocide rate has fallen dramatically. Ah, good point. I think I’ll drop my health insurance then since society is healthier now than it was in 1700. :rolleyes: > [@jshore](#): > > in contrast to your claim that we have somehow let criminals out of prison, in fact incarceration rates soared in the last 50 years and are only starting to level off in about the last decade. _Of course_ the incarceration rate has soared in the last fifty years. For one thing we have more than twice as many people now. And we have more people committing crime. And we have more people being incarcerated multiple times! None of this means our country’s liberals haven’t created a revolving-door jail and prison system. To the contrary it shows they: a) created a high crime environment beginning you know when; and b) most certainly have indeed created a revolving-door jail and prison system, as evidenced by the large number of arrests involving violent criminals with multiple convictions on their record out walking free while still in their twenties and thirties. > [@jshore](#): > > Your conservative fairy tale bears very little resemblance to reality, but hey, I am sure it makes you feel good. What makes me feel even better is how easy it is to shoot holes in your nonsense. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/84 "2018-04-05T19:06:51Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Could someone please give **Projammer** a ball so that he can declare victory, take his ball and go home? Sure, if I can bounce it off his thick head a few times first. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/85 "2018-04-05T19:13:13Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Undoubtedly. 🙂 > > While I would certainly dispute that “most” people were treated like shit back then, I’ll leave that argument for another time. The idea however that “law-abiding” and racism, et. al are inseparable and we can’t have one without the other is yet another example of how there’s simply no accounting for the liberal thought process. > > Hip, hip, hooray! After half a century the murder rates have finally fallen back to where they were pre-counterculture fuckupery. Probably because more and more people have been buying guns to protect themselves in the aftermath of the explosion in murder and overall crime that occurred beginning in the late sixties. > > Ah, good point. I think I’ll drop my health insurance then since society is healthier now than it was in 1700. :rolleyes: > > _Of course_ the incarceration rate has soared in the last fifty years. For one thing we have more than twice as many people now. And we have more people committing crime. And we have more people being incarcerated multiple times! None of this means our country’s liberals haven’t created a revolving-door jail and prison system. To the contrary it shows they: a) created a high crime environment beginning you know when; and b) most certainly have indeed created a revolving-door jail and prison system, as evidenced by the large number of arrests involving violent criminals with multiple convictions on their record out walking free while still in their twenties and thirties. > > What makes me feel even better is how easy it is to shoot holes in your nonsense. 🙂 A lot of mouthing off, but > [@Starving Artist](#): > > Well, to be honest it hasn’t always been a dystopian shithole. We were once a pretty good, law-abiding country _still_ too chickenshit to tell us when this magical period existed. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/86 "2018-04-05T19:24:38Z")
He’s made that clear a number of times, and even pinned it down to 1968. Then the coloreds and the wimmen’s libbers got all uppity and started telling him they were his equal. Which they aren’t, btw. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/87 "2018-04-05T19:26:54Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > He’s made that clear a number of times, and even pinned it down to 1968. Then the coloreds and the wimmen’s libbers got all uppity and started telling him they were his equal. > > Which they aren’t, btw. 🙂 Thanks for that-ghod, what a racist/sexist troll! ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/88 "2018-04-05T19:35:56Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > He’s made that clear a number of times, and even pinned it down to 1968. Then the coloreds and the wimmen’s libbers got all uppity and started telling him they were his equal. > > Which they aren’t, btw. 🙂 I thought it was hippies? Hippies and their hippie drug use and lack of respect, and general all-around hippiness? And something about beating your children. Or not beating them. Or something. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/89 "2018-04-05T19:41:15Z")
If it had been hippies, Eivissa would be a constant gunfight instead of Europe’s party capital. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/90 "2018-04-05T19:45:18Z")
Yes, that hitting children was little confusing. Apparently he thinks that if you hit children they will grow up to be nonviolent adults - who will hit their children that will grow up to be nonviolent adults and so on… ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/91 "2018-04-05T19:49:53Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Thanks for that-ghod, what a racist/sexist troll! If you believe a word that **Elvis** says you’re even more stupid that I thought. And that would be extraordinary. Well, I take that back, to a degree. He’s right about 1968 . That was the year the great national idiocy that had been brewing for a couple of years pretty much gelled into what it was to become and I’ve said so many times. I purposely haven’t answered your question because I couldn’t be arsed, given that you’re such a disagreeable shitbag generally and you posed your question in such a deliberately annoying manner. But just for the record I’ve never once voiced any complaint about positive changes in minority and women’s rights. **Elvis** is a lying piece off shit about this, but that’s de rigueur around here when it comes to my positions on race and women’s rights because it’s pretty much the only defense he and his ilk (including you) has to justify the incredible amount of damage they’ve done to this country over the last fifty years. Since I can easily call dipshits like him out for his dishonesty it’s fine with me for them to do this as it only serves to highlight the fact they have nothing else. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/92 "2018-04-05T19:49:54Z")
**A Moment in History** Parole was invented in 1967 by Allen Ginsberg and Jack Kerouac. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/93 "2018-04-05T19:50:52Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > What makes me feel even better is how easy it is to shoot holes in your nonsense. 🙂 Good for you. So how do you feel when your nonsense is nuked to oblivion by facts as it was in post #57? ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/94 "2018-04-05T19:52:00Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > _Of course_ the incarceration rate has soared in the last fifty years. For one thing we have more than twice as many people now. That’s, uh, not how [rates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_(mathematics)) work. > [@](#): > > And we have more people committing crime. And we have more people being incarcerated multiple times! None of this means our country’s liberals haven’t created a revolving-door jail and prison system. To the contrary it shows they: a) created a high crime environment beginning you know when; and b) most certainly have indeed created a revolving-door jail and prison system, as evidenced by the large number of arrests involving violent criminals with multiple convictions on their record out walking free while still in their twenties and thirties. The US has the highest incarceration rate in the world. How do you square that with a “revolving door”? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/95 "2018-04-05T19:56:05Z")
> [@Norse](#): > > Good for you. So how do you feel when your nonsense is nuked to oblivion by facts as it was in post #57? His nonsense is nuked anytime someone remembers there’s a bunch of countries that have undergone those social changes he complains about. Well, minus the “there has been someone shot, it must be a day ending in -y” kind of thing. Most countries have lower shooting-people rates; those which don’t tend to be regarded as bad places to visit and also to not have had much in the way of those kinds of social changes. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/96 "2018-04-05T19:59:45Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > Yes, that hitting children was little confusing. > Apparently he thinks that if you hit children they will grow up to be nonviolent adults - who will hit their children that will grow up to be nonviolent adults and so on… Children who spanked, not beaten, learn to behave and grow into adults who behave. Virtually every kid my age got spanked but it’s the ones who’ve grown up under 50 years of liberal airheadedness who are undisciplined (at school and in general), and who are bullying kids into suicide and shooting up the place because they can’t cope with life. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/97 "2018-04-05T20:01:35Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > He’s made that clear a number of times, and even pinned it down to 1968. Then the coloreds and the wimmen’s libbers got all uppity and started telling him they were his equal. > > Which they aren’t, btw. 🙂 So before or after the MLK assasination? Or… during? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/98 "2018-04-05T20:03:14Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Children who spanked, not beaten, learn to behave and grow into adults who behave. Virtually every kid my age got spanked but it’s the ones who’ve grown up under 50 years of liberal airheadedness who are undisciplined (at school and in general), and who are bullying kids into suicide and shooting up the place because they can’t cope with life. Did you get spanked? How often? ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/99 "2018-04-05T20:04:41Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Children who spanked, not beaten, learn to behave and grow into adults who behave. Virtually every kid my age got spanked but it’s the ones who’ve grown up under 50 years of liberal airheadedness who are undisciplined (at school and in general), and who are bullying kids into suicide and shooting up the place because they can’t cope with life. You know, every post that you write tells that YOU can’t cope with life. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848/100 "2018-04-05T20:07:22Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Did you get spanked? How often? Judging from his manners not nearly enough. Or maybe his dad hit Starvy’s head 'cause couldn’t tell it from his ass. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-hours-and-no-one-has-pitted-the-youtube-shooter/811848.md?page=6)