# 24 or 6 to 4

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955>\
**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\
**Created:** [July 1, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955 "2008-07-01T19:47:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![peach1000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@peach1000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peach1000)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/1 "2008-07-01T19:47:06Z")

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the ilumatti has all ways controlled the music business for a long time, they love putting their symbols, on all there works.  
As much as I love the song…  
25 or 6 is 25 +26 =51, 5+1=6  
again 6  
2 for 4 is 2+4 =6  
666  
sorry this is not fun!  
I feel very bad as a musician, from a small child, that the same, had to sell their sole to satin, to get it done, what a bummer.

[http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/m25or6to4.html](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/m25or6to4.html)

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**Author:** ![peach1000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@peach1000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peach1000)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/2 "2008-07-01T19:52:05Z")

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the ilumatti has all ways controlled the music business for a long time, they love putting their symbols, on all there works.  
As much as I love the song…  
25 or 6 is 25 +26 =51, 5+1=6  
again 6  
2 for 4 is 2+4 =6  
666  
sorry this is not fun!  
I feel very bad as a musician, from a small child, that the same, had to sell their sole to satin, to get it done, what a bummer.

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/3 "2008-07-01T20:00:07Z")

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[QUOTE=peach1000]  
had to sell their sole to satin, to get it done, what a bummer.  
[/QUOTE]

Indeed.

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/4 "2008-07-01T20:08:08Z")

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They sell fish to fabric?

Well, that makes about as much sense as the rest of it.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/5 "2008-07-01T20:17:04Z")

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[QUOTE=peach1000]  
the ilumatti has all ways controlled the music business for a long time, they love putting their symbols, on all there works.  
As much as I love the song…  
25 or 6 is 25 +26 =51, 5+1=6  
again 6  
2 for 4 is 2+4 =6  
666  
sorry this is not fun!  
I feel very bad as a musician, from a small child, that the same, had to sell their sole to satin, to get it done, what a bummer.  
[/QUOTE]

Hmmm…  
If we take a=1, b=2, c=3…  
peach1000 = 1034 (P=16, e=5, etc + 1000)  
c = 3  
e+a = 5+1= 6  
h = 8

1034 - 368 = 666 :eek:

Spawn of Satin, begone!

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/6 "2008-07-01T20:18:54Z")

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Think analog clock. It’s 3:35 or 3:34 in the morning. Do we keep going or call it a night and go to bed.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/7 "2008-07-01T20:21:45Z")

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It’s not satin, of course. It’s satan. Which is an anagram for… SANTA!

Beware the man in red!

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/8 "2008-07-01T20:27:44Z")

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> had to sell their sole to satin

Sounds like a ballet shoe to me.

In reference to your post: I don’t follow your thinking.

Also: 666 is a perfectly normal number that will appear randomly in the world. If you believe otherwise, I cordially suggest that you have been misled.

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/9 "2008-07-01T20:52:04Z")

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Welcome to the SDMB, peach. I’ve merged the two identical threads you probably created by accident. The system has its hiccups from time to time. I’ve added a link to the staff report you’re commenting on. A link to the report is always appreciated. It keeps us all on the same page.

You may also be interested in these other fine staff reports: [What’s the story on numerology?](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mnumerology.html) and [What’s up with 666, the “mark of the beast”?](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/m666.html)

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**Author:** ![critter42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@critter42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/critter42)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/10 "2008-07-02T07:03:13Z")

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[QUOTE=peach1000]  
had to sell their sole to satin, to get it done, what a bummer.  
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Wasn’t that pretty much a requirement for Pop acts in the 70s…I mean just **look** at some of those outfits…

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/11 "2008-07-07T21:24:06Z")

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The Moody Blues wrote explicitly about Knights in the service of satin. Wake up, America!

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**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/12 "2008-07-07T22:45:40Z")

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Why do we even bother fighting ignorance? It’s bliss anyway, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/13 "2008-07-07T23:07:09Z")

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The band **Chicago** are the collective spawn of Satan? What?

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**Author:** ![Vlad\_Igor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Vlad\_Igor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vlad_Igor)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/14 "2008-07-07T23:37:04Z")

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Well, Peter Cetera’s voice could become grating after a while.

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**Author:** ![lawoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@lawoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawoot)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/15 "2008-07-08T08:19:23Z")

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[QUOTE=susan]  
666 is a perfectly normal number that will appear randomly in the world. If you believe otherwise, I cordially suggest that you have been misled.  
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By SATIN!!!

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**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/16 "2008-07-08T14:45:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Vlad/Igor]  
Well, Peter Cetera’s voice could become grating after a while.  
[/QUOTE]  
And it explains the trombone player. God knows that he wasn’t _trying_ to stay in tune. He must have been playing to some strange occultish scale that was designed to drive anyone with a sense of intonation stark raving mad.  
(It also explains Kenny G, FWIW.)

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/17 "2008-07-08T20:57:26Z")

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[QUOTE=cornflakes]  
And it explains the trombone player. God knows that he wasn’t _trying_ to stay in tune. He must have been playing to some strange occultish scale that was designed to drive anyone with a sense of intonation stark raving mad.  
(It also explains Kenny G, FWIW.)  
[/QUOTE]

Aha! :smack: That’s what it was! After three days of playing that thing over and over, my little brother ripped that Chicago 8-track out of his player. I heard him yell that the band was trying to misle him. “They’re tryin’ to misle me!”

He beat the tape to death with a hammer, but I told him, “It’s too late, maaaan. You’re already misled.”

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/18 "2008-07-14T20:00:05Z")

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All hail Satin! Prince of Fabulousness!

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-or-6-to-4/454955/19 "2008-07-15T16:41:15Z")

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I’ve been persueded. All my shoes are belong to de debbil.
