# "24" Season 2, Episode 15 - 10:00 p.m. - 11:00 p.m. (SPOILERS) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 4, 2003, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887 "2003-03-04T00:44:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/41 "2003-03-05T03:39:44Z")
I’m wondering if FOX is going to do some long form AMERICAN IDOL shows to eat up time to save episodes of 24 for the May sweep. That’s gotta be it. If 24 comes back on March 25 and there are 9 remaining episodes, that takes us right to the end of the May book. About tonight’s episode: As soon as I saw Mason show up at the airport, I knew he was going to fly that plane. And as soon as I saw the extra seats on the plane, I was sure I was right. It’s a good way for him to go out. With a bang, as it were. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/42 "2003-03-05T03:41:30Z")
> [@](#): > > from _av8rmike_ > Monstre, I’m thinking that we’ll also spend the rest of the time trying to track down Kim wandering through the woods, to tell her that Jack’s alive. Well, that’s a given. It was obvious that her brief moment of rational thought (not getting in Scuzball’s car, then accepting the ride from Nice Lady) couldn’t last. But of course, it’s Jack’s fault! Remember, he **did** tell Kim that he loved her exactly the way she was, and that he didn’t want her to change. (At that moment, I was thinking that he should have said – “Don’t change, honey. Well, except… try to get smarter, okay sweetheart?” ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/43 "2003-03-05T03:43:03Z")
Hey, **Pablito** - Here is what happened in the preview for next week - if I missed anything, anyone here can feel free to add or amend: They showed someone breaking a window at what appeared to be a convenience store and they said something along the lines of “It’s starting”, which I’m assuming is the rioting that will come with the panic of a nuclear bomb going off. Ummm…some guy we couldn’t see talked to Jack on the phone and said “I’m the only one who can prove to you that the recording was faked” … someone was interrogating Syed Ali and he said he wouldn’t talk. There was more. Can somebody help me out? Despite the predictable ending of Mason going down in a blaze of glory, I thought this one was well done. Great stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Pablito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@Pablito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pablito)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/44 "2003-03-05T04:07:08Z")
**interface2x** –thanks a bunch for the preview recap!! Something to tide me over for the next 3 weeks. ps: I HATE american idol. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/45 "2003-03-05T04:16:27Z")
Missed it. I did see a little while on the street. From the 2 minutes that I saw it looked like we were right about Radioactive Man. I’m not reading this thread until I see it on FX. ---
**Author:** ![quixotic78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3ab097/32.png) [@quixotic78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quixotic78)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/46 "2003-03-05T04:31:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ivylass \* > **Oh, God, I cried like a baby while Jack was saying goodbye to Kim.** > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Pablito_ > **I can’t believe I actually teared up during the super sappy phone conversation between Jack and Kim.** Phew, so I wasn’t the only one! Come on, the rest of you… fess up… [sub]Please?[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/47 "2003-03-05T05:06:25Z")
At the end of tonight’s, I was waiting for… “HAMMMMMEEERRRRRRR!!!” 😃 (_Wonders who gets it…_) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/48 "2003-03-05T05:35:51Z")
Sledge Hammer, **Monstre?** How do I do a spoiler box? I have a comment about the preview. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/49 "2003-03-05T05:35:52Z")
I’m there for ya, **Monstre**! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/50 "2003-03-05T05:45:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by quixotic78 \* > \*\*Phew, so I wasn’t the only one! > > Come on, the rest of you… fess up… > > [sub]Please?[/sub] \*\* Yup, me too… I got all sniffly and misty. I’m _such_ a sucker for father/daughter stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/51 "2003-03-05T05:47:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Steelerphan \* > \*\*Sledge Hammer, **Monstre?** > > How do I do a spoiler box? I have a comment about the preview. \*\* Yep! And spoiler boxes are actually quite easy. Just do a vB tag, like this: {spoiler} Text of spoiler in here {/spoiler} but with square brackets [and], not the squiggly braces above (which I did so that it doesn’t show up as an actual spoiler). ---
**Author:** ![Hazel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@Hazel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazel)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/52 "2003-03-05T05:49:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monstre \* > \*\*So I’m guessing the remaining 9 hours will be about whether the U.S. will end up going to war with the three countries mentioned in the info from Sayed Ali’s recording. And perhaps there will be some question as to the validity of the recording? Is this real proof that the nuke was funded and planned by these countries, or is Sayed Ali’s terrorist group setting up the U.S. to lead them into starting a World War III? \*\* Good theory. It has 9 more hours? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/53 "2003-03-05T05:54:36Z")
Well, assuming this will be another 24 episodes – the full 1 day period – then yes. 9 hours left. (Episodes 16 - 24). or… 11 PM - 8 AM. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/54 "2003-03-05T06:04:44Z")
Here’s my reaction to the preview: I think the phone call Jack is getting is from the fired assistant to the Prez- the one that got removed for withholding Jack’s phone call. I wonder how long it’s going to take Jack and Palmer both to get to LA? Probably an incredibly short time. Also, could the broken window be the result of the ground or air shock wave? Thanks, **Monstre.** 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/55 "2003-03-05T06:17:34Z")
In case it’s not obvious, this is my Jack Bauer Power Hour\* Train Of Thought. (Upon Mason’s arrival at the airport:) Sweet, Mason’s gonna fly the bomb out! Yay! Kim’s coming to visit! I can take CalTrain down to San Jose! (Why the hell is she going to San Jose? Wasn’t she going to her aunt’s house elsewhere in SoCal or something? Man, love the oh-so-subtle foreshadowing of Mason’s demise. They needed “The Voice” from the movie previews- “One man must do the unthinkable… to save us all.” Um… Jack’s not gonna take off, is he? Damn, Jack took off. This should be good. Dammit, Jack and Kim are gonna make me cry. Bwa ha ha ha… Rock on, Mason! Definitely not taking any drinks for him acting like a dick. Crap, my tape ran out halfway through the episode! Right when I’m faced with two weeks of no 24. Just frickin’ great. I think what should’ve happened is that when Jack jumped out of the plane, the bomb should’ve accidentally caught on Jack’s shoelace, forcing him to disarm the bomb with a wristwatch and his teeth. Very nicely done effects with the detonation. Plenty eerie. If only Dodger Stadium was located in a remote spot in the Mojave… \*-Thanks to my non-Doper friend Marty for that one. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/56 "2003-03-05T06:19:46Z")
By my calculations, Jack was 14 miles from the bomb detonation. That would be more than enough for a 10 kt bomb, which would have an area of total destruction of maybe a mile or less. Remember, the Hiroshima bomb was twice that size, and only a portion of the city was destroyed. And people continued to live in the city afterwards. So, 14 miles, behind rock… He’d maybe feel the blast a little bit, but that’s about it. Hopefully, he’s upwind. That said, the bomb plot was a little unbelievable, because they could have stopped the bomb from detonating by just blowing it up. Jack should have landed in the desert with a bunch of explosives, and just blasted the thing. It’s very hard to get a nuclear detonation - blasting it with explosives would have just scattered radioactive material around on the desert floor - no boom. And Kim sure is stupid. But not just that, she’s erratic. What was there about that phone call that would make her want to get out of a vehicle and run into the desert? The ‘logical’ reaction would have been to just close her eyes, lay back in the seat, and cry. And let the nice lady drop her off someplace safe and warm so she could catch a bus home. Her reaction wasn’t just stupid - it made no sense. But other than that, it was a fine episode. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/57 "2003-03-05T06:27:49Z")
**Steelerphan** – right, you are thinking about Eric Rayburn (don’t read his spoiler, **Max** – it’s about the preview! and don’t worry, Rayburn isn’t mentioned in the preview, so I’m not giving anything away – Steelerphan is just speculating on something…) Actually, since the Prez gave him his walking papers, I’ve been wondering whether we are going to see Rayburn again. Still wondering. I think it’s possible that he was in league with Stanton and Friends. And when the hell are we going to see Nina back in the mix? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/58 "2003-03-05T06:46:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by interface2x \* > **Here is what happened in the preview for next week - if I missed anything, anyone here can feel free to add or amend:** Yep, your post had the primary gist of it – the main important things. Other details… There was a quick clip of a CTU chopper picking Jack up. The thing with “It’s starting” and somebody smashing something through a window (I agree on the rioting and looting theory). Mike talking to the Prez, saying something about the three countries involved “and we have proof” and the Prez saying, “what if the proof is a lie?” Michelle was the one interrogating Ali. She says, “I want the truth.” Ali says, “What does the truth matter?” And the bit with Jack getting the mysterious phone call (which you already mentioned). ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/59 "2003-03-05T07:11:32Z")
> [@](#): > > What was there about that phone call that would make her want to get out of a vehicle and run into the desert? The ‘logical’ reaction would have been to just close her eyes, lay back in the seat, and cry. I don’t know, the whole time Kim was in the car with Nice Lady, I was thinking she’d have been better off taking her chances with El Camino Rapist Dude. Nice Lady scared the hell out of me. She practically _screamed_ Disarming Fifth Columnist Attempting to Kidnap CTU-guy’s Clueless Daughter. I wouldn’t be surprised if _she’s_ the next one to intervene before Kim becomes cougar-food. Jack is plenty far enough away from ground zero-- We’ve all seen that footage of American GI’s marching away from the mushroom cloud during testing in Nevada-- Those guys didn’t get head-cancer until much later, and besides, Jack was way further away than they were. As for the “three middle-eastern countries”, I’m okay with leaving it to the viewers’ imagination. It would be unreasonably inflammatory to use specific countries as “the bad guys”, (or “the fall guys”, as the case may be,) and I prefer leaving it open to making up a fictionalized country-- Although I guess “Phlogistan,” “Pyria,” and “Caustica” would do in a pinch. (Hey, my straw man’s on fire!) Yeah, I got all weepy when Jack was talking to his idiot child. Hell, I got all weepy when _George_ was talking to _his_ idiot child. They got me twice with what was practically the same scene. Eh, I’m in my thirties and parental mortality is pretty close to home. Curse you, Fox focus-group, with your manipulative demographic surveys! I’m a big fan of President Palmer. The way he inspires confidence… the way he sweats integrity… the way you can’t tell which party he belongs even though you’ve known him for almost two years… Why can’t real heads-of-state be so damned reassuring? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887/60 "2003-03-05T07:16:59Z")
But isn’t it just incredibly stupid for him to fly to Los Angeles of all places? Riots, terrorists running around, a fallout cloud that could head their way if the wind shifts… It makes no sense. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-15-10-00-p-m-11-00-p-m-spoilers/158887.md?page=4)