# "24" Season 2, Episode 21 - 4:00 a.m. - 5:00 a.m. (SPOILERS) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 29, 2003, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883 "2003-04-29T10:57:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/1 "2003-04-29T10:57:55Z")
_24_, Season 2 Episode 21 4:00 a.m. - 5:00 a.m. **Spoilers ahead!** Previous episodes discussed: [1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141661) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=142720) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=143761) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=144882) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146280) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=147635) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149356) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150854) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=154843) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=156343) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=160583) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=162262) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=163850) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=165404) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=167046) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=172344) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=174079) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=175707) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=177496) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=178804) This thread is presented as a service of the **24 Club**. ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/2 "2003-04-29T14:16:08Z")
Two words: [Hummina hummina](http://channels.netscape.com/ns/celebrity/gallery.jsp?floc=g_cuthbert&gname=cuthbert) (not a spoiler, just a few pics of Elisha Cuthbert. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/3 "2003-04-29T14:40:11Z")
Where has Kim been? Last we saw her she was at the police station, right? Is that where she was when she called her boyfriend? ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/4 "2003-04-29T16:33:08Z")
_24_ or _Manor House_. _24_ or _Manor House_. _24_ or _Manor House_. I think I’m going to have to record _24_ this week. _Manor House_ is only one for three days. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/5 "2003-04-29T16:50:39Z")
Traitor! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/6 "2003-04-29T16:53:19Z")
I’ll be in to post…but maybe not until Thursday. Call it a fling, a one-night stand, a weekend with the cabana boy. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/7 "2003-04-29T16:59:25Z")
Manor House? Sounds like another PBS reality show…am I close? ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/8 "2003-04-29T17:58:02Z")
Bingo, **Max**. I’m slightly interested in it too, but they’re replaying tonight’s episode tomorrow at 10 PM, at least on my PBS channel, so there’s no conflict. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/9 "2003-04-29T18:20:31Z")
Here, **Max** : [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=179831](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=179831) ---
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/10 "2003-04-29T19:59:09Z")
Ugh. The Spurs/Suns game starts at 7:00… …which means it will be over at about 9:30. The pressure! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/11 "2003-04-29T21:50:01Z")
:::readies the chair, bucket of water and defibrillator for both **Soup\_du\_jour** and **ivylass** ::: You’ll watch it now!! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lux\_Interior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@Lux\_Interior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lux_Interior)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/12 "2003-04-30T02:05:01Z")
That Bitch! I will refrain from elaborating for our mountain/western readers. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/13 "2003-04-30T02:10:35Z")
Boy, am I glad those council members decided to take a moment to compse themselves. I really had to take a whiz. ---
**Author:** ![Fibber\_McGee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a6a055/32.png) [@Fibber\_McGee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fibber_McGee)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/14 "2003-04-30T02:14:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lux Interior \* > \*\*That Bitch! > > I will refrain from elaborating for our mountain/western readers. \*\* Yeah, I’m sure regular viewers will have no idea who you’re talking about . . . 😉 You have to admit, this doesn’t exactly come as a surprise. ---
**Author:** ![Fibber\_McGee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a6a055/32.png) [@Fibber\_McGee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fibber_McGee)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/15 "2003-04-30T02:20:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lux Interior \* > \*\*That Bitch! > \*\* . Maybe. Sherry’s unexpected reappearance in the hacker’s apartment doesn’t necessarily make her a bad guy. We’ll have to wait until next week to find out more. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/16 "2003-04-30T02:26:10Z")
I won’t…they know there are spoilers (up to the next week previews, anyway) The entire hour was worth sitting thru if for no other reason than the last word, last shot of the night. Oh. My. God! [Peter Falk re: Kate] But when she said “Be Careful” what she was really saying was “I love you.” [/Peter Falk re: Kate] Best line of the night :“I’m the president, Mike. YOU don’t call me by my first name.” Palmer may have been easily manipulated this year, and generally wishy washy, but dammit, I’d vote for him again in 2004. And I’m not watching American Idol next Tuesday, dang it. Thanks to commercials I know that Kim confronts Abusive Dad and Jack tells her to shoot him apparently Why does Fox hate me? ---
**Author:** ![PigBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/97f17d/32.png) [@PigBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigBoy)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/17 "2003-04-30T02:55:42Z")
I’m not sure any of these guys actually read the 25th amendment, other than the words “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.” ---
**Author:** ![sleeping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@sleeping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeping)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/18 "2003-04-30T03:19:30Z")
Wouldn’t it be funny if it was Bush? “Mr. President, we feel that you are incapable of fulfilling the duties of your office. Therefore, we are invoking the 25th Amendment.” “The 25th what?!” ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/19 "2003-04-30T03:26:29Z")
OK, so after two blissful weeks, that idiot Kim is back on the show. Will someone please explain to me WHY THEY’RE TAKING HER TO ABUSIVE DAD’S HOME “to pick up [her] things?” Are they mad? Abusive Dad is still on the loose. . . and the cops KNOW he killed his wife!!! Tell me we’re not setting Kim up for yet another stupid perilous situation! Please. Tell me that!!! (I won’t believe you.) Other than that, this was a GREAT episode! Dennis Haysbert deserves an Emmy for his work as President Palmer. And didn’t we all know that defibrillator episode would come back to haunt him??? Jack certainly seems to have completely recovered from his crash/torture/death, etc. He’s really back in form. And I am so glad he did NOT kiss that Kate woman! She still makes me crazy she is so insipid. Jack deserves better. He deserves me! ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883/20 "2003-04-30T06:31:49Z")
[Constitution trivia] The 25th Amendment to the Constitution actually contains a typo. > [@](#): > > Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the \*\* principal \*\*officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and > duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President. > Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the > Vice President and a majority of either the \*\*principle \*\* officers of the > executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, Always bugged me. [/Constitution trivia] As for this method to remove the president, I can’t imagine that the public would stand for it. Or Congress. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-21-4-00-a-m-5-00-a-m-spoilers/171883.md?page=2)