# "24" Season 2, Episode 5 - 12:00 p.m. - 1:00 p.m. (SPOILERS) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 26, 2002, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-5-12-00-p-m-1-00-p-m-spoilers/138800 "2002-11-26T01:13:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-5-12-00-p-m-1-00-p-m-spoilers/138800/41 "2002-11-28T19:56:55Z")
In what was a pretty relieving appearance based on some of her character’s action on **24** , it was nice to see Elisha Cuthbert (Kim Bauer) on _Last Call with Carson Daly_ last night. She seemed like a very fun-loving down-to-earth 19 year old girl, who is a lot brighter than her character. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-5-12-00-p-m-1-00-p-m-spoilers/138800/42 "2002-11-30T07:24:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Troy McClure SF \* > \*\***[hijack]Dude, I could walk to your house. 25th/Geary here. You ever attend Dopefests?[/hijack]** > \*\* I think we met at a BAD one, at some resturant downtown, during my first month here in town. 32nd and Pacheco/Quintero here. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-5-12-00-p-m-1-00-p-m-spoilers/138800/43 "2002-11-30T07:25:41Z")
BAD meaning Bay Area Dopers. I actually had a good time. ---
**Author:** ![FallenAngel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@FallenAngel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FallenAngel)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-5-12-00-p-m-1-00-p-m-spoilers/138800/44 "2002-11-30T13:08:23Z")
Not to make excuses for stupid decisions and reactions, but it needs to be recalled that Kim is a 18-19 YO girl here. Of course she reacts to everything on an emotional level and lets her passions dictate her actions. I’ve not known many 18 YOs (unfortunately myself included) who wouldn’t fit that bill. And, I’ll go a tad further and say that in spite of the fact that we older and wisers get bugged by Kim operating on all emotion all the time, she’s the HOTTEST woman on TV right now. Now, if we can somehow get Kim and Michelle involved in “a very special subplot”… Hey, it’s the holidays, time for wishes, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-5-12-00-p-m-1-00-p-m-spoilers/138800/45 "2002-12-03T08:11:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ivylass \* > **I was confused about the chopper crash too. What does it mean for the intelligence exchange?** Hmm… this seems unlikely in reality, but as I understand it, Palmer gave up all our physical files to the ambassador, so now that the chopper went down, so did all our intel on Second Wave. (Wouldn’t we have more than paper originals? Especially with the protective presidential assistant guy?) I also mourn Darlene Connor. Perhaps David Healy can come in and save the day. ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-5-12-00-p-m-1-00-p-m-spoilers/138800/46 "2002-12-03T16:02:29Z")
I took it more as an indication that someone had gone behind the back of the prez and ordered the downing of the chopper to prevent the release of the files. Like, maybe… a certain dismissed National Security Director, or whatever. Can I admit to being a little glad that darlene has outlived her usefulness? ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-5-12-00-p-m-1-00-p-m-spoilers/138800/47 "2002-12-03T16:12:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by stolichnaya \* > \*\*I took it more as an indication that someone had gone behind the back of the prez and ordered the downing of the chopper to prevent the release of the files. Like, maybe… a certain dismissed National Security Director, or whatever. > > \*\* I think that’s more likely the case. I hardly believe the Prez would turn over original files of anything…they must have given them copies. ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-5-12-00-p-m-1-00-p-m-spoilers/138800/48 "2002-12-03T17:20:08Z")
I took it as a sign that the new NSA guy - the one who promised a full “investigation” - is worse then the one he had. Then enemy you know is better then the one you don’t. I think he only screwed himself when he fired that guy. This new older guy is shaaaaaadddyyyy. He’s the one who wants the war . . . DaLovin’ Dj ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-5-12-00-p-m-1-00-p-m-spoilers/138800/49 "2002-12-03T17:42:05Z")
Also, this was the week that I realized that Jack Bauer was instrumental in getting [Pedro Cerrano](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0097815) elected to the highest office in the land. I had never made that connection before and now it adds a whole new dimension to _24_. “Hats for Jack. Keep Jack warm.” ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-5-12-00-p-m-1-00-p-m-spoilers/138800/50 "2002-12-03T20:10:35Z")
Hmm… I guess your interpretations do make more sense, huh? :rolleyes: \<-directed at self ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-5-12-00-p-m-1-00-p-m-spoilers/138800/51 "2002-12-04T03:15:59Z")
> [@](#): > > Can I admit to being a little glad that darlene has outlived her usefulness? They had just better not kill off Michelle. Or I will never forgive them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-5-12-00-p-m-1-00-p-m-spoilers/138800.md?page=2)