# "24" Season 2, Episode 9 - 4:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. (SPOILERS)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 7, 2003, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-9-4-00-p-m-5-00-p-m-spoilers/147065 "2003-01-07T01:40:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2003, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-9-4-00-p-m-5-00-p-m-spoilers/147065/41 "2003-01-09T00:43:19Z")

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I guess the torture scene is they had the graphic violence warning at the beginning of the show (first time I’ve seen that this season). I had a hard time watching that as well.

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2003, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-9-4-00-p-m-5-00-p-m-spoilers/147065/42 "2003-01-09T01:39:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by FallenAngel \*  
> \*\*I did think the flare gun scene was a little overdone. Very cool, but I don’t think the flare would penetrate and put the guy down like that. \*\*

Ever see _Dead Calm_ with Nicole Kidman, Sam Neill and Billy Zane? It’s about 10 years old, but any video store should have it. I can’t say any more for fear of spoiling the end.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2003, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-9-4-00-p-m-5-00-p-m-spoilers/147065/43 "2003-01-09T05:35:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by FallenAngel \*  
> \*\*If the rest of the season can maintain this kind of intensity and intrigue, I’m gonna break down and buy a DVD player, so help me. \*\*

Same here. _24_ is the only thing I use my VCR for. And every time I see the _24_ DVDs at Blockbuster, I always check out the DVD Player prices.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2003, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-9-4-00-p-m-5-00-p-m-spoilers/147065/44 "2003-01-09T05:35:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Max Carnage \*  
> \*\*I do find it a litle hard to believe that Jack wouldn’t keep track of how many magazines he handed to Nina. Especially when it was only 3 or 4. \*\*

I can’t even understand why he gave them to her in the first place. I don’t think even someone fresh out of basic training would willingly part with their ammo supply in a combat situation.

Apparently the writers couldn’t come up with a better way for Nina to get her hands on a weapon.

I still thought it was a good episode.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2003, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-9-4-00-p-m-5-00-p-m-spoilers/147065/45 "2003-01-09T17:21:41Z")

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Was I the only one who got the idea that Marie is in on this deal from the previews?

Reza says “Who else had access to this account? Marie?” and then there’s a quick shot of a gun with a silencer.

I put it in a spoiler box because I don’t want anyone who doesn’t pay attention to the coming attractions to get mad at me.

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**Author:** ![Wyld\_Stallyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@Wyld\_Stallyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wyld_Stallyn)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2003, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-9-4-00-p-m-5-00-p-m-spoilers/147065/46 "2003-01-09T17:57:33Z")

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FallenAngel, I think it was a portable sander, on what it was used makes me cringe (judging by the screams of the victim).

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2003, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-9-4-00-p-m-5-00-p-m-spoilers/147065/47 "2003-01-09T20:50:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dante \*  
> \*\*No, no, no. Action hero’s never need tetanus shots. Every injury is to be simply walked off. \*\*

You got that right!

In one scene, Jack pulls out a hunk of shrapnel the size of a Bowie knife, then is giving Nina mouth-to-mouth to revive her after they both fell 23,000 feet and crashed in an airplane, and less than 13 seconds later, they are doing an Olympic-qualifying sprint across rocky terrain dodging bullets.  
(Despite these minor lapses in credibility, I love this show and bought both my brothers the DVD first season sets for Christmas.)

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-9-4-00-p-m-5-00-p-m-spoilers/147065/48 "2003-01-13T06:49:37Z")

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> Just because she’s pardoned in advance for the crime doesn’t mean they have to allow her to commit it.

Right – and I’m certain that the president would be willing to pardon any of the CTU guys that happened to plug Nina full of holes before she could kill Jack.

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> What I can’t figure out about who is behind the bomb is who stands to gain. OK, if it’s just terrorists, then sure, nuking LA is pretty terrible. But if it’s the government, why? To take over the country under martial law? A rogue agency to bring down Palmer? But why go to all this trouble just to ruin Palmer? There has to be an easier way of wrecking a presidency.

I could be wrong, but I don’t get the impression that it’s about wrecking the presidency. I think it’s just to hurt America – make the U.S. look weak, etc. Sayed Ali said something about not letting anything ruin this “sacred day”. Sounds like a 9-11 sort of motive, but on a much larger scale.

After the speech additions, Ensign Ro is probably going to start having a little begrudging respect for ex-Mrs. Palmer. Although I still wanted her to bitch-slap that smug look off ex-wife’s face at the end. 😉

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> Any show in which a random flunkie (as in, not the Big Bad Guy) gets shot by a flare gun is aces in my book.

**Avalonian** - then check out _Under Siege 2: Dark Territory_, because it happens in that movie, too.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2003, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-9-4-00-p-m-5-00-p-m-spoilers/147065/49 "2003-01-14T22:09:56Z")

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Re the scenes from next week:

Did anyone notice whether the shot with Reza at the computer and the shot of the shooting gun were part of the same scene? I wouldn’t be surprised if these were cut together from different scenes in the episode to make us think that Reza is going to get shot (at).  
It was pretty clearly an inside scene, but remember Dr. Torture is getting ready to kill Kate, and I think it showed him loading a gun while she was still in shock that looked like the one in the preview. So the shot fired in the preview scenes could be from that storyline instead of Reza’s. Darn those editors!

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2003, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-2-episode-9-4-00-p-m-5-00-p-m-spoilers/147065/50 "2003-01-14T22:53:19Z")

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Both me and you will find out tonight **JayLa**.

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