# 24: Season 4: Episode 12 (6:00pm - 7:00pm)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 7, 2005, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444 "2005-03-07T22:40:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/1 "2005-03-07T22:40:25Z")

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_24_, Season 4, Episode 12  
6:00 PM - 7:00 PM

SPOILERS AHEAD!

Season 4 threads  
[1-2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296090) [3-4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296231) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=297399) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=298733) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=299932) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=301189) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=302470) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=303632)[11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=304737)

Season 3 threads  
[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=220002) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=221380) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=222709) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=224017) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=225274) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=226621) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=228098) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=229589) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=233364) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=234768) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=236885) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=237968) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=239159) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=240183) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=241649) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=248269) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=249575) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=251669) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=252057) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=253222) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=254435) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=255627) [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=256792) [24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=258060)

Season 2 threads  
[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=141661) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=142720) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=143761) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=144882) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=146280) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=147635) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=149356) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=150854) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=154843) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=156343) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=160583) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=162262) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=163850) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=165404) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=167046) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=172344) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=174079) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=175707) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=177496) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=178804) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=180544) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=182018) [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=183597) [24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=185081)

Season 1 threads  
[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=97572) 2 [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=100175) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=101350) 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=103851) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=104854) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=106093) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=107360) 19 [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=109991) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=111266) 22 [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=115233) [24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=116289)

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/2 "2005-03-07T22:40:57Z")

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Man, I didn’t see that coming!

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/3 "2005-03-08T01:19:31Z")

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So let’s see… most of the terrorists(that we know of) have been captured or killed (except Manwar or whatever his name is) and CTU has regained control of the device and all the nuclear reactors (except the one that melted down). Aleesha the mole is dead; Driscoll’s daughter is dead. Except for capturing the lead terrorist dude, all the loose ends have wrapped up quite nicely.

I have absolutely no idea what is going to happen in the next 13 hours.

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**Author:** ![RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RancidYakButterTeaParty)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/4 "2005-03-08T01:47:35Z")

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I didn’t know that Alisha was dead?! Did I miss something?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/5 "2005-03-08T02:04:04Z")

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> [@RancidYakButterTeaParty](#):
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> I didn’t know that Alisha was dead?! Did I miss something?

She got wacked last week right before accessing the computer with the list of names in it.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/6 "2005-03-08T02:06:42Z")

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The MF suits are being waaaaaayyyyyyyy to co-operative.

[Star Wars]"I’ve got a bad feeling about this.[/sw]

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**Author:** ![RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RancidYakButterTeaParty)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/7 "2005-03-08T02:07:45Z")

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I think I must be losing my memory, that was a pretty vivid scene now that you have jogged me ole’ thought box. This was right before Curtis was taken by the bad guys, and then kicked some ass, right?

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/8 "2005-03-08T02:08:43Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> She got wacked last week right before accessing the computer with the list of names in it.

the week before, actually…

Dammit, I missed a few minutes of that last segment because my power went out – heavy thunderstorms. Argggghhhhhhhh. Frickin weather.

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**Author:** ![RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RancidYakButterTeaParty)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/9 "2005-03-08T02:17:39Z")

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Looks like we won’t have to worry about Driscoll’s bad acting for at least the rest of this week. This might have been her best performance though.

Looked like Audrey was pissed to see her Dad cuddling with Driscoll.

MF is going down!

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/10 "2005-03-08T02:18:59Z")

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One would think that this company would be eager to turn over anything about Marwan to the government, to ensure that there was no suspicion that they were involved – i.e. be cooperative and make sure the govt has no reason to believe that there was anybody else in the company actually involved in the terrorist plan

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/11 "2005-03-08T02:29:55Z")

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okay, I guess I missed something about the “arms to terrorists” thing when the power went out – because now they said, “They’ll find out we sold arms to terrorists” (just before ordering the EMP activated).

So, what was the bit I missed? Why are they so adamant about covering up the files (other than the bit about “Gosh, if they find out it was one of our employees, our name will be associated with terrorism”, which I don’t really buy). What else was there?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/12 "2005-03-08T02:38:19Z")

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An EMP device, eh?

Looks like Enterprise had a yard sale!

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/13 "2005-03-08T02:39:45Z")

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Woo Hoo!

Michelle is back!!

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**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/14 "2005-03-08T02:41:28Z")

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Are you sure it wasn’t an EMP? Heh heh… Looks like the military-industrial complex is the real threat to America.

“I used to be married to her”-- GREAT line!

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/15 "2005-03-08T02:41:29Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> okay, I guess I missed something about the “arms to terrorists” thing when the power went out – because now they said, “They’ll find out we sold arms to terrorists” (just before ordering the EMP activated).
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> So, what was the bit I missed? Why are they so adamant about covering up the files (other than the bit about “Gosh, if they find out it was one of our employees, our name will be associated with terrorism”, which I don’t really buy). What else was there?

Well selling arms to terrorists really is not a good thing. Imagine if some company in real life was found to sell high tech weaponry to Osama Bin Ladin and Al Queda. The executive officers of the company would be D-E-A-D.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/16 "2005-03-08T02:42:57Z")

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looks like he almost got that door closed. Just a wee bit too late.

Michelle high-tailed it over to CTU pretty fast.

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/17 "2005-03-08T02:44:31Z")

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Tonight was the first time I ever watched _24_, and I was completely on the edge of my seat the entire hour. Am I screwed because I missed the previous episodes of the season?

Adam

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**Author:** ![RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RancidYakButterTeaParty)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/18 "2005-03-08T02:45:10Z")

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I’m actually a little disappointed that Michelle is back, it’s just too easy and predictable.

Not a whole lot of action in this one, but some definite plot twists. I can’t believe that MF is getting this involved. They are going to go down hard, especially that head of security guy. Do EMPs really exist BTW?

What’s up with the “tortured employee of the month”? She is throwing around tons of attitude now, and giving a lot of questioning looks.

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**Author:** ![Flander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/19 "2005-03-08T02:47:15Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> Woo Hoo!
> 
> Michelle is back!!

Yeah, but where’s Chloe?!

Driscoll actually shed a tear, I’m impressed. I also chuckled a bit when SoD proclaimed “she’s going to have to step down” right after consoling her. Awesome. Tony was director of CTU for like 45 minutes. That’s gotta blow.

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**Author:** ![Flander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-12-6-00pm-7-00pm/293444/20 "2005-03-08T02:49:25Z")

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Oh, I forgot. The Pres is STILL just chillin up in the air. I hope he’s got an air hockey table or something on that plane.

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