# 24: Season 4: Episode 15 (9:00pm - 10:00pm)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 28, 2005, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671 "2005-03-28T21:33:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2005, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/1 "2005-03-28T21:33:04Z")

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This week’s 24 thread brought to you by the letters J and Q, and the number 3.

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_24_, Season 4, Episode 15  
9:00 PM - 10:00 PM

SPOILERS AHEAD!

Season 4 threads  
[1-2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296090) [3-4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296231) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=297399) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=298733) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=299932) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=301189) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=302470) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=303632)[11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=304737) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=305851) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=306966) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=308104)

Season 3 threads  
[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=220002) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=221380) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=222709) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=224017) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=225274) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=226621) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=228098) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=229589) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=233364) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=234768) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=236885) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=237968) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=239159) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=240183) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=241649) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=248269) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=249575) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=251669) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=252057) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=253222) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=254435) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=255627) [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=256792) [24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=258060)

Season 2 threads  
[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=141661) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=142720) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=143761) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=144882) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=146280) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=147635) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=149356) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=150854) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=154843) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=156343) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=160583) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=162262) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=163850) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=165404) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=167046) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=172344) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=174079) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=175707) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=177496) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=178804) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=180544) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=182018) [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=183597) [24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=185081)

Season 1 threads  
[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=97572) 2 [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=100175) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=101350) 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=103851) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=104854) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=106093) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=107360) 19 [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=109991) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=111266) 22 [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=115233) [24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=116289)

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2005, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/2 "2005-03-28T21:51:29Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> This week’s 24 thread brought to you by the letters J and Q…

You misspelled “Jack.”

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/3 "2005-03-29T02:16:31Z")

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So after they dragged Jack away from where he was chained (after he tripped the first henchman and started kicking at the second) – what were they focusing on? What did he do to that thing next to him? Couldn’t tell.

I think his trip-punch-kick thing was a diversion, then. Did he have a tracking device that he planted or something? Anybody catch it?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/4 "2005-03-29T02:23:50Z")

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I think Edgar needs a serious bitch-slapping.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/5 "2005-03-29T02:25:46Z")

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“I’m sorry, was I being overly blunt? I can do that sometimes…”

Hee hee – Chloe is being Chloe tonight.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/6 "2005-03-29T02:33:53Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> Did he have a tracking device that he planted or something? Anybody catch it?

Apparently he shorted out the phone lines. This should allowed CTU to find the warehouse where Jack was being held.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/7 "2005-03-29T02:38:04Z")

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Ugh! Worst. Episode. Ever!

Incompetent idiots! They fell for Marwan’s plans hook, line, and sinker. For once an episode couldn’t end too soon. Painful, painful.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/8 "2005-03-29T02:46:31Z")

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So, anybody wanna guess the devastating twist for next week?

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/9 "2005-03-29T02:47:05Z")

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Ahem…have to admit to a mea culpa here, although strictly speaking the mistake wasn’t mine. I said the red headed dude would steal a Stealth bomber, but he took a Stealth FIGHTER. Now, technically, the F117A is known as a bomber as well, because it has little in the way of air-to-air armament, but most people would consider the B2 the Stealth bomber.  
That is all. 😃

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/10 "2005-03-29T02:49:49Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> So, anybody wanna guess the devastating twist for next week?

More than a guess, a spoiler-informed opinion is that Air Force One gets shot down.

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**Author:** ![moi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@moi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moi)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/11 "2005-03-29T02:57:09Z")

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Wow, I’m finally on the Chloe bandwagon (“I was being overly blunt…”). Too grand.

RikWriter pretty much already gave me the answer I was looking for in opening the thread (I thought the fighter plane was some sort of “stealth,” but didn’t know for certain).

Anyway, the whole episode was a little “bleh” for me, since I just never bought that Jack was in any danger. Folks who’ve watched the show in previous seasons: Have there ever been any episodes _sans_ Jack?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/12 "2005-03-29T02:57:26Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> More than a guess, a spoiler-informed opinion is that Air Force One gets shot down.

That was my guess, but, somehow, I think it’s going to be worse. How, I don’t know.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/13 "2005-03-29T03:00:15Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> That was my guess, but, somehow, I think it’s going to be worse. How, I don’t know.

This is just a guess, not a spoiler, but I think whoever the VP is, he gets usurped by the next in line, who might just be a plant by someone, perhaps McClennan Forrester.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/14 "2005-03-29T03:02:05Z")

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SHIT…could some mod edit that post and put it in spoiler tags anyway? It reveals something that IS a spoiler. Dammit, sorry about that.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/15 "2005-03-29T03:08:44Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> Apparently he shorted out the phone lines. This should allowed CTU to find the warehouse where Jack was being held.

Did you post this before or after Jack told Tony, “I shorted out the phone lines”? (At which point I knew the answer, too). Or did you know because that’s what Jack told Tony?

I just want to know whether to be impressed with your powers of observation. 😉

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/16 "2005-03-29T03:13:21Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> SHIT…could some mod edit that post and put it in spoiler tags anyway? It reveals something that IS a spoiler. Dammit, sorry about that.

- chains **RikWriter** to the radiator \*
- contacts a SDMB Administrator \*
- offers to exchange **RikWriter** for… a Snickers bar \*

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/17 "2005-03-29T03:14:03Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> I just want to know whether to be impressed with your powers of observation. 😉

No need to be impressed. 😃

Actually, I figured he was trying to escape or put out the lights.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/18 "2005-03-29T03:19:03Z")

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Did anybody else think that Marwan had a really annoying cell phone ring?

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/19 "2005-03-29T03:22:01Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> No need to be impressed. 😃
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> Actually, I figured he was trying to escape or put out the lights.

Heh heh… I first thought maybe he was trying to escape, but then when realized he was just distracting them while doing something. They made it obvious he was “up to something” by zooming in on that little box, but I couldn’t tell whether we were supposed to know what he did in that scene.

Obviously they told us later explicitly.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/20 "2005-03-29T03:28:27Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> Did anybody else think that Marwan had a really annoying cell phone ring?

I turned to my husband and said, “Oh Marwan has teenagers. One picked out that annoying ringtone for him.”

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