# 24: Season 4: Episode 15 (9:00pm - 10:00pm) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 28, 2005, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671 "2005-03-28T21:33:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/81 "2005-03-30T08:37:38Z")
> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#): > > That was definitely a T38/F5 in some of the earlier scenes. Now he’s flying a F117? Does not compute. There was a hangar with multiple planes. The one we saw through the window may have been a T38, but he’s flying an F117. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/82 "2005-03-30T23:02:21Z")
Christ, I just found out what Marwan REALLY wants and I have to say this may be the point where 24 jumps the damned shark. He wants to shoot AF1 down to get the codes from the nuclear football. Now, how the HELL do you insure that you shoot the plane JUST right so that it comes down in one piece, allowing you to get the nuclear football? And for Christ’s sake, isn’t this getting to be like an Energizer Bunny thing? I’m sorry, but this may be the season where I get off the 24 train. ---
**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/83 "2005-03-31T01:39:49Z")
Re: RikWriter’s spoiler That does sound pretty silly. It’s hard enough to find the black box after a plane crash. Like the crash site wouldn’t be swarming with people or anything. Then again, they found the briefcase with the override right away. ---
**Author:** ![RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RancidYakButterTeaParty)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/84 "2005-03-31T01:49:22Z")
> [@c\_goat](#): > > Re: RikWriter’s spoiler > > That does sound pretty silly. It’s hard enough to find the black box after a plane crash. Like the crash site wouldn’t be swarming with people or anything. Then again, they found the briefcase with the override right away. Question about RikWriter’s spoiler: What is a nuclear football? ---
**Author:** ![archmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@archmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/archmichael)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/85 "2005-03-31T01:57:14Z")
> [@RancidYakButterTeaParty](#): > > Question about RikWriter’s spoiler: What is a nuclear football? It is a suitcase authentication system to launch a nuclear attack. There is a military person who constantly follows the President around to make sure it is available to the President in the event of a pre-emptive nuclear strike on the US ---
**Author:** ![RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RancidYakButterTeaParty)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/86 "2005-03-31T02:33:27Z")
> [@archmichael](#): > > What is a nuclear football? > It is a suitcase authentication system to launch a nuclear attack. There is a military person who constantly follows the President around to make sure it is available to the President in the event of a pre-emptive nuclear strike on the US [spoiler]Thanks[spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/87 "2005-03-31T02:57:46Z")
Wow, and we’re worried about command and control issues in Pakistan. Apparently one decapitating attack and that’s it. What a country!. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/88 "2005-03-31T03:02:38Z")
Also somewhat interesting to note was the crappy stock footage that they had to use of the F-117 being towed out. Previously the show’s been able to make use real life military hardware…most notably the strafing run of the LA River a season (or two?, or three?) ago, because they’ve almost always shown the military saving the day. This time not so much. Obviously they don’t like where this storyline is going… ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/89 "2005-03-31T03:03:39Z")
> [@BobT](#): > > Wow, and we’re worried about command and control issues in Pakistan. Apparently one decapitating attack and that’s it. What a country!. Well, that’s just the thing, ain’t it? I mean it’s hard enough to suspend my disbelief that this hardcore terrorist guy could worm his way high enough into a defense contractor to get access to this freaking nuclear power planet override, but NOW they want me to believe he could come up with this plan to grab the nuclear launch codes and that it would MEAN a damned thing? The SECOND they found out the codes would be grabbed, they would change the damned things. AGGGHHH! I hate it when shit like this happens in shows I love. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![quixotic78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3ab097/32.png) [@quixotic78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quixotic78)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671/90 "2005-04-01T01:40:45Z")
> [@Dan Norder](#): > > I can just imagine a bunch of them talking: Ooh, that whole atomic bomb thing failed because those guys were based in Los Angeles. Biowarfare attack? Because doofus based it out of Los Angeles, which is where the infection started AND where the terrorist’s daughter happened to live (gee, that makes a lot of sense… I really care about my daughter, so I’ll spread something that’ll kill people indiscriminately where she lives, and run it from down the street). Sorry to nitpick here (and a few days late, too), but I didn’t recall that Jane Saunders (the daughter from last season) was actually in LA, so I checked the episode capsules at [the official site](http://www.fox.com/24/season3/episodes/guide.html), specifically the 7 AM - 8 AM one, and I was right – she was attending school at Santa Barbara, which is, what, like 100 miles from LA? [/incredible minor nitpick I’m ashamed of making] > [@annieclaus](#): > > And to be catty, Audrey is not a very good looking woman. Too skinny. Too long a face, too pointy a nose. She makes me nervous. _Au contraire_, this is actually the first episode where I said, “Damn, she’s not that bad looking.” You’re right, she IS too skinny, and she does have the long face, but she’s got other, um, assets I somehow managed to miss until this recent episode :eek: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-15-9-00pm-10-00pm/296671.md?page=4)