# 24: Season 4: Episode 19 (1:00am - 2:00am)
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [April 25, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065 "2005-04-25T20:48:41Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/41 "2005-04-26T02:11:16Z")
> [@Monstre](#):
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> … and we still haven’t gotten to see Kim running…
Cue the mountain lion…
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### Author:  [@thwartme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thwartme)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/42 "2005-04-26T02:22:25Z")
> [@Monstre](#):
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> I didn’t get the impression it was due to understaffing (although most of the field teams were out on the Marwan operation). I thought they sent her because of the nature of the evidence – that they needed her to do it because she was the best at accessing the computer info they needed.
That’s more or less what I meant. The way they portray it, Chloe is pretty much the only one they trust to do any kind of major computer thing. Even when Edgar pulled off the hack-of-all-hacks, they still second-chaired him to Chloe when she got back.
The only staff they seem to have a never ending supply of is CTU redshirts.
thwartme
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### Author:  [@moi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moi)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/43 "2005-04-26T02:23:54Z")
I completely thought Chloe was going to get it in the field, just at this point where I kinda like her snarkiness. _Phew!_
What the heck is it with CTU sending folks out with only 1-2 back-up redshirts? I mean, when someone is your only lead, wouldn’t you be dialing up LAPD and posting them at her door even before you got there?
Also, as an ex-pres, what sort of security updates does Palmer get?
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### Author:  [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/44 "2005-04-26T02:29:17Z")
Damn. Chloe is actually kinda hot with an automatic rifle. I totally got a halfie.
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### Author:  [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/45 "2005-04-26T02:31:04Z")
> [@moi](#):
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> Also, as an ex-pres, what sort of security updates does Palmer get?
I found that rather odd, too. There’s no reason an ex-president would be getting any kind of security or intelligence briefings.
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### Author:  [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/46 "2005-04-26T02:46:34Z")
Damn good thing that Sabir’s girlfriend lived like two blocks away from CTU. Chloe got there during the fucking commercial.
Still, it was cool seeing her stand there all steady like with that M4 and blow the guy away through the windshield… 😃
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### Author:  [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/47 "2005-04-26T02:51:41Z")
> [@friedo](#):
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> I found that rather odd, too. There’s no reason an ex-president would be getting any kind of security or intelligence briefings.
Might have just been plot driven. Can’t have Pres. Palmer shlepped off to the White House without knowing what’s going on, right?
Chloe, Chloe. . . The Gal With the Gun! She rocks!
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### Author:  [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/48 "2005-04-26T02:55:04Z")
> [@friedo](#):
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> I found that rather odd, too. There’s no reason an ex-president would be getting any kind of security or intelligence briefings.
Actually ex-presidents are entiltled to CIA briefings. Most don’t bother to exercise this, but Bush 41 & Clinton have.
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### Author:  [@jweb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jweb)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/49 "2005-04-26T03:04:21Z")
> [@friedo](#):
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> I found that rather odd, too. There’s no reason an ex-president would be getting any kind of security or intelligence briefings.
IIRC, ex-Presidents get Secret Service protection for the rest of their lives.
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### Author:  [@Gamaliel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gamaliel)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/50 "2005-04-26T03:06:50Z")
Wow, that last scene had me laughing for five solid minutes and I missed the next ep teaser because I was literally crying. Putting up with all the crap this season has been worth it for this one scene.
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### Author:  [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/51 "2005-04-26T03:08:05Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Actually ex-presidents are entiltled to CIA briefings. Most don’t bother to exercise this, but Bush 41 & Clinton have.
Also, I was under the impression that former presidents are assigned a Secret Security detail for the rest of their life. So, it is reasonable that he would have both the security and the briefings (if he so chose).
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### Author:  [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/52 "2005-04-26T03:10:01Z")
> [@jweb](#):
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> IIRC, ex-Presidents get Secret Service protection for the rest of their lives.
Yeah, although that legislation was changed recently. Starting with GWB, ex-presidents will get protection for only ten years after they leave office. But that has nothing to do with intelligence briefings.
> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Actually ex-presidents are entiltled to CIA briefings. Most don’t bother to exercise this, but Bush 41 & Clinton have.
I find that dubious. Cite?
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### Author:  [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/53 "2005-04-26T03:18:08Z")
> [@Skammer](#):
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> Also, I was under the impression that former presidents are assigned a Secret Security detail for the rest of their life. So, it is reasonable that he would have both the security and the briefings (if he so chose).
Yes but, again, the Secret Service doesn’t have anything to do with intelligence briefings. Those are provided by the CIA. (That’s what the “I” is for. 🙂 )
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### Author:  [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/54 "2005-04-26T04:55:07Z")
Haven’t read the thread, but I beleive a classic _24_ quote is appropriate for the end of this episode…
“Shoot him again!”
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/55 "2005-04-26T05:05:59Z")
> [@Troy McClure SF](#):
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> Haven’t read the thread, but I beleive a classic _24_ quote is appropriate for the end of this episode…
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> “Shoot him again!”
God, that was the best 24 quote of all times. Nothing like good fatherly advice!
I couldn’t help but notice how much Logan looks like Nixon. It’s uncanny. The nose and hairline are unmistakenly Nixonian.
Pretty good epsiode for this season. I suppose it’ll turn out that Palmer is at the WH in the first few minutes of next week’s episode, which means he just happened to be hanging out in DC.
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### Author:  [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/56 "2005-04-26T05:20:30Z")
> [@friedo](#):
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> Damn. Chloe is actually kinda hot with an automatic rifle.
Darn right. Chloe is SO hot when she’s packin’ heat.
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### Author:  [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/57 "2005-04-26T05:24:00Z")
Oh my fricking lord. How the hell did commissioned hitman open the laundry room door when Chloe moved the fricking washing machine in front of it? Didn’t he have to shove it _just a little bit_? C’mon…
I wanna know how much time Chloe has spent at the gun club since she aced those head shots. I’d expect just a bit more recoil. Just a bit, mind you.
Yeesh. With the lawyer crap last week, and Jack’s arrest this week, my willing suspension of disbelief is becoming very forced.
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### Author:  [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/58 "2005-04-26T06:11:57Z")
> [@thwartme](#):
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> The only staff they seem to have a never ending supply of is CTU redshirts.
Today it was Agent Pushingup and Agent Thedaisies.
> [@moi](#):
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> Also, as an ex-pres, what sort of security updates does Palmer get?
Probably status reports on the security of his Presidential Memoirs, especially if being transported anywhere. Also updates on nearby Hottie Alert Levels. Wait… that’s just Clinton…
> [@John Mace](#):
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> I couldn’t help but notice how much Logan looks like Nixon. It’s uncanny. The nose and hairline are unmistakenly Nixonian.
Logan: I am not a schnook! … oh wait. Yes I am…
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### Author:  [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/59 "2005-04-26T06:54:28Z")
Chloe. What can I say.
Bitch-slap Edgar a couple of times.
Go out as a field agent.
Spray the terrorist with a M-16.
I want you.
I want you to bear my children.
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### Author:  [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/60 "2005-04-26T07:16:24Z")
> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#):
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> Chloe. What can I say.
> …
> I want you.
> I want you to bear my children.
**Chloe** : I know.
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