# 24: Season 4: Episode 19 (1:00am - 2:00am)
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [April 25, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065 "2005-04-25T20:48:41Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/61 "2005-04-26T10:37:58Z")
Did I miss something? How did Secret Service know where Jack was to go and arrest him? CTU had to torture a guy to get that info. I suppose the new head guy at CTU coulda told them, but don’t you think he woulda stalled to buy Jack some time?
Am I the only one who cracks up every time Marwan’s cell phone rings?
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### Author:  [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/62 "2005-04-26T10:59:33Z")
> [@Barbarian](#):
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> I wanna know how much time Chloe has spent at the gun club since she aced those head shots. I’d expect just a bit more recoil. Just a bit, mind you.
There is very, very little recoil from an M16 or even the M4 carbine Chloe was using. They are probably the easiest military weapon made to shoot accurately, even for a novice.
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### Author:  [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/63 "2005-04-26T11:57:51Z")
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> > Originally Posted by **Barbarian**
> > I wanna know how much time Chloe has spent at the gun club since she aced those head shots. I’d expect just a bit more recoil. Just a bit, mind you.
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> There is very, very little recoil from an M16 or even the M4 carbine Chloe was using. They are probably the easiest military weapon made to shoot accurately, even for a novice.
One of the first things demonstrated on the firing course in Basic Training was the instructor placing the rifle against his crotch and firing in full auto mode. When you’re just spraying bullets like that, you can just train the stream like a garden hose, and the pattern on the windshield looked right for that.
Anyone notice that Chloe’s closeups are getting tighter? It seems like she’s being made more attractive each episode- makeup, clothing, and the camers angles they use.
I also noticed that they made it obvious about the Prez’s profile- in one of the split-screen moments, while they changed scenes, his head was backlit and in profile- that receding Eddie Munster hairline, the ski-slope nose, the pear-shaped head- it was Nixon.
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### Author:  [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/64 "2005-04-26T13:16:09Z")
> [@Barbarian](#):
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> I wanna know how much time Chloe has spent at the gun club since she aced those head shots. I’d expect just a bit more recoil. Just a bit, mind you.
I wouldn’t call spraying a windshield from 20 feet away “aceing” a head shot. Besides, I’m sure they must all go through some kind of basic weapons training. Either way, Chloe got a little taste of Jack Bauer Power and I think she likes it.
Personally, I think my response to being asked to go out into the field would be “okay…and I sign out the weapons…from where?”
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### Author:  [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/65 "2005-04-26T13:56:23Z")
> [@Troy McClure SF](#):
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> Haven’t read the thread, but I beleive a classic _24_ quote is appropriate for the end of this episode…
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> “Shoot him again!”
Yeah! He’s not dead ENOUGH!!!
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### Author:  [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/66 "2005-04-26T13:59:50Z")
> [@The Mad Hermit](#):
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> I also noticed that they made it obvious about the Prez’s profile- in one of the split-screen moments, while they changed scenes, his head was backlit and in profile- that receding Eddie Munster hairline, the ski-slope nose, the pear-shaped head- it was Nixon.
Yeah, I don’t get that. If it were Nixon he would have ordered CTU to stand down and let G. gordon Liddy have a shot at interregations seeing as everyone but Jack would seem too much a Hippie peacenik to Tricky Dick… Haaroooo!
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### Author:  [@moi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moi)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/67 "2005-04-26T14:00:31Z")
> [@msmith537](#):
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> Personally, I think my response to being asked to go out into the field would be “okay…and I sign out the weapons…from where?”
Add to that, “And you hand me my bullet-proof vest…when?”
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### Author:  [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/68 "2005-04-26T15:19:50Z")
> [@msmith537](#):
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> I wouldn’t call spraying a windshield from 20 feet away “aceing” a head shot. Besides, I’m sure they must all go through some kind of basic weapons training. Either way, Chloe got a little taste of Jack Bauer Power and I think she likes it.
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> Personally, I think my response to being asked to go out into the field would be “okay…and I sign out the weapons…from where?”
Maybe she’d be smarter than Jack and take a rifle or shotgun on raids of enemy hideouts instead of carrying a handgun.
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### Author:  [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/69 "2005-04-26T15:55:27Z")
> [@moi](#):
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> Add to that, “And you hand me my bullet-proof vest…when?”
And I will rendezvous with my platoon of Delta Force commandos…where?
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### Author:  [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/70 "2005-04-26T16:42:23Z")
Hour 1: Threat happpens or is identified
Hour 2: Conspirator identified and tortured, information obtained
Hour 3: Target surrounded, escapes
Repeat until hour 24.
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### Author:  [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/71 "2005-04-26T17:00:36Z")
> [@kingpengvin](#):
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> Yeah, I don’t get that. If it were Nixon he would have ordered CTU to stand down and let G. gordon Liddy have a shot at interregations seeing as everyone but Jack would seem too much a Hippie peacenik to Tricky Dick… Haaroooo!
Yep – should have made him more Al Gore-ish. He could have hugged a tree for comfort while he made the tough decision.
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### Author:  [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/72 "2005-04-26T17:09:50Z")
I still want to know where the terrorists supply their staffing needs. After at least three separate raids in 24 hours (I assume they lost a few people at the disco who didn’t make it down the tunnel.) and several assorted gun battles in which Jack Bauer personally took out 30 or 40 bad guys, they still have what appears to be a fully staffed war room and enough personnel to dispatch a trained killer to take out the girlfriend and CTU cannon fodder. The bad guys must offer one hell of a benefits package.
Incidentally, isn’t dispatching the girlfriend more of a security risk than doing nothing? The terrorist boyfriend is off in Iowa somewhere and they don’t _know_ that he’s been dumbass enough to leave stuff on his laptop. Not to mention that their Evil Plan is already coming to fruition, so what’s the big secret?
Incidentally, Marwan must have to go to the bathroom even less than Jack. He’s escaped by the skin of his teeth about six times in one day, raced in from the desert less than an hour ago and already he’s recording a tape? He should write a book on Ten Habits of Highly Effective Terrorists.
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### Author:  [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/73 "2005-04-26T17:32:24Z")
> [@Finagle](#):
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> I still want to know where the terrorists supply their staffing needs.
Well, remember it does appear that Marwan has a terror cell on every block. In every state of the union.
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> The bad guys must offer one hell of a benefits package.
You mean beyond the standard post-martyrdom 72 virgins?
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> Incidentally, Marwan must have to go to the bathroom even less than Jack. He’s escaped by the skin of his teeth about six times in one day, raced in from the desert less than an hour ago and already he’s recording a tape?
He probably keeps an empty bottle in the car for long trips… 😃
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### Author:  [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/74 "2005-04-26T18:28:48Z")
Go, Chloe! At least she made sure the guy was dead and didn’t do what most women do when forced to shoot someone in the movies: fire once or twice, then drop the gun & burst into tears.
Perhaps I’ll get my wish and next year it’ll be Jack, Tony, Chloe & Palmer driving around in a van solving mysteries. 😃
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### Author:  [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/75 "2005-04-26T19:17:30Z")
Clearly, the only way out of the mess they’re in is to step up the torturing. Just grab some folks and get busy torturing. That solves just about any problem.
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### Author:  [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/76 "2005-04-26T19:22:36Z")
> [@cbawlmer](#):
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> Perhaps I’ll get my wish and next year it’ll be Jack, Tony, Chloe & Palmer driving around in a van solving mysteries. 😃
You must be kidding! I’ve made that same joke before, but that’s actually what I wanted this season to be about! Just add non-bitchy Michelle to the mix (she was awesome in season 3), and I wanted to see the gang hit the road, flying down the highways and byways of America, fighting off zombie invasions with chainsaws and shotguns.
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### Author:  [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/77 "2005-04-26T19:29:27Z")
> [@blowero](#):
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> Clearly, the only way out of the mess they’re in is to step up the torturing. Just grab some folks and get busy torturing. That solves just about any problem.
Not only that, but you always get totally reliable information. Sweet!
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/78 "2005-04-26T19:36:40Z")
Did I hear things correctly, or did Jack not say “nukyular”? I noticed it last week, and again this week. But he usually talks so fast it’s hard to be sure.
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### Author:  [@Roadfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roadfood)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/79 "2005-04-26T20:44:00Z")
> [@John Mace](#):
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> Did I hear things correctly, or did Jack not say “nukyular”? I noticed it last week, and again this week. But he usually talks so fast it’s hard to be sure.
Yes, you heard right. Jack Bauer, who can squeeze blood from a turnip, cannot pronounce the word “nuclear” correctly.
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### Author:  [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2005, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/301065/80 "2005-04-26T20:58:34Z")
> [@Roadfood](#):
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> Jack Bauer, who can squeeze blood from a turnip
They have him torturing VEGETABLES now??? 😃
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