# 24: Season 4: Episode 20 (2:00am - 3:00am) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 2, 2005, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119 "2005-05-02T20:04:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/41 "2005-05-03T12:25:38Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Does anybody else want Marwan to _win_? I realized that I actually want the bomb to go off. It would be really unexpected. Or at the very least have President extradite Jack to the PRC. Or better yet, have his little incident start WWIII! Well Once the show started to really go off the rails with this uber complicated plan I began to get frustrated. It was the episode when Airforce One was attacked that I turned to rooting for Marwan and the show suddenly got better. Each episode I’d be watching thinking “How is Marwan going to escape this situation?” Oh oh can they silence the girlfriend in time? Will amnesty international… I mean world amnesty free the weak link? This week was a disapointment, no Marwan and too much soap opera nonsense at CTU but a good ending. Jack is definitely a psychopath. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/42 "2005-05-03T12:58:08Z")
> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#): > > Anyone else think that Jack has 0% chance of any more nookie from the gorgeous Audrey? If this were the real world, I’d agree with you. But this is 24, season 4. By 4:30 AM she’ll be all like “Paul who?” ---
**Author:** ![RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RancidYakButterTeaParty)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/43 "2005-05-03T13:09:13Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > Next Week on 24: > > Doctor: He’s awake know. He can answer question, but be brief. > > Jack (to translator): Ask him where Marwan is. > > Translator: {A phrase in Chinese I don’t understand} > > Chinese Guy: {A phrase in Chinese I don’t understand} > > Translator (to Jack): He says Marwan is in this nightclub… Good point. Marwan would still be recording his tape, or at least bumpin’ and grindin’ on the dance floor, if Jack had not found him at the nightclub. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/44 "2005-05-03T13:12:21Z")
What’s all this crap over insisting on having the promises written on paper and signed by the president and it being a problem? C’mon. You run around violating embassies. Killing people is so routine you probably don’t mention it in your diary. What’s the anguish over a little forgery? The guy wants amnesty, a flight on the space shuttle and all the gold from Fort Knox? No sweat. Call up CTU and they have it ready by the time you arrive. One flunky types out the list while another flunky preps a sheet of ‘official’ presidential stationery. Print the list on the paper and have any handy slob sign it Abraham T. Logan, President. Come on, do you really imagine a Chinese bomb specialist has any idea what the signature of the ex-vice president looks like? What’s the Chinese guy going to do later on, when he finds he holds a piece of worthless paper – sue Jack for lying to him? Besides, the guys around _JACK_. What are his odds of surviving long enough for him to find out the hoax? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/45 "2005-05-03T13:35:35Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > Oh, c’mon, let’s not get ridiculous. Yeah, President Wuss would never sew women’s pantyhose. The Chinese marines at the Embassy are as well trained as the red shirts. Gee, a masked man in black has just kidnapped a man under our protection and is carrying him draped across his back. I know, let’s shoot at his back. :smack: The van driver who got his mask lifted and scraped/scratched…any speculations where they are taking that? I’m guessing DNA evidence to link the abduction to CTU. How they’ll get results in a 24 hour period is beyone me, but not impossible in the **24** universe, where everything moves at the speed of light **RYBTP** , the Chinese embassy is _15_ minutes away, according to Jack (and I ain’t gonna argue with him). I’d have to rewatch the show to guage how long travel time actually was although, even with irrefutable evidence, I’d still agree with anything Jack says. ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/46 "2005-05-03T14:13:36Z")
Was I the only one bothered by the condition of that operating room? Folks running around in there in street clothes, no masks, etc. Concrete walls, for Pete’s sake! How sterile was that? And it was lit like a cave. Oh, maybe it was a cave. The CTU cave. No wonder poor Paul bought the farm. Probably wasn’t even Jack’s fault. If I were Audrey, I’d sue for malpractice. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/47 "2005-05-03T14:56:24Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > The van driver who got his mask lifted and scraped/scratched…any speculations where they are taking that? > > I’m guessing DNA evidence to link the abduction to CTU. How they’ll get results in a 24 hour period is beyone me, but not impossible in the **24** universe, where everything moves at the speed of light The assistant consulate will call up Gil Grissom for a favor. I think one of his CSIs might be in town Too bad they don’t have anyone else to pin the blame on. Like a bunch of violent terrorists. They could even say that this group had an interest in the guy who was abducted upon locating him. Such a group might even break international protocol by ignoring international agreements and treaties. Hmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/48 "2005-05-03T14:58:21Z")
> [@annieclaus](#): > > Was I the only one bothered by the condition of that operating room? Folks running around in there in street clothes, no masks, etc. Concrete walls, for Pete’s sake! How sterile was that? > > And it was lit like a cave. Oh, maybe it was a cave. The CTU cave. No wonder poor Paul bought the farm. Probably wasn’t even Jack’s fault. If I were Audrey, I’d sue for malpractice. That bothered me too, but they don’t really care if the Chinese guy dies of an infection later as long as he lives long enough to tell them what they want to know. As for Paul, well he was toast anyway, he had some nerve even surviving his initial go as Jack’s human shield. Sorry for the preview spoiler, I didn’t think it was much of a spoiler since it was rather obvious that’s where the whole thing was going. Let’s pretend I had just phrased it “it looks like next week we’ll be on the verge of WW3 with the Chinese.” and it will just be spec. I really like the idea of Jack being a Mad Max in a post-apocalyptic near future, then he can do anything he wants and not worry about the rules! Oh wait, that’s not much different than now. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/49 "2005-05-03T15:12:29Z")
I looked away at the wrong time. Someone want to explain to me why Jack was trying to interrogate Paul in the operating room? ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/50 "2005-05-03T15:19:58Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > I looked away at the wrong time. Someone want to explain to me why Jack was trying to interrogate Paul in the operating room? Jack wasn’t trying to interrogate Paul. He wanted to interrogate the Chinese guy. So Jack had to play heart surgeon while the real surgeon patched up the Chinese guy. Unfortunately, Jack flunked de-fibrillation in med school and Paul bought the farm. We don’t know about the Chinese guy. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/51 "2005-05-03T15:22:03Z")
Has anyone thought to tell Audrey that if Paul couldn’t survive the five minutes it took him to die after the docs left him, he sure as hell wasn’t going to survive surgery? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/52 "2005-05-03T15:25:38Z")
> [@annieclaus](#): > > Jack wasn’t trying to interrogate Paul. He wanted to interrogate the Chinese guy. So Jack had to play heart surgeon while the real surgeon patched up the Chinese guy. Unfortunately, Jack flunked de-fibrillation in med school and Paul bought the farm. We don’t know about the Chinese guy. Then why was Jack screaming, “This is what you get for stealing back the girl I stole from you, BEEYOTCH!”? ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Bianca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@Miss\_Bianca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Bianca)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/53 "2005-05-03T16:24:15Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Hey, I didn’t expect the guy to live either. > Now, I’m not a Physician, but I’ve watched Jack and Curtis working in the emergency room. > [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > I was waiting for Jack to demand a saw. I was waiting for Jack to say, “Stop dying, Paul! **STOP DYING _NOW_!!!** ” ---
**Author:** ![RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RancidYakButterTeaParty)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/54 "2005-05-03T16:27:23Z")
Do you think the surgeon felt any pressure trying to perform an emergency life-saving procedure only to be forced to switch to another dying patient at gunpoint? I was hoping that Curtis would break out with “Always look on the bright side of life…” ---
**Author:** ![RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RancidYakButterTeaParty)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/55 "2005-05-03T16:28:49Z")
> [@Miss Bianca](#): > > I was waiting for Jack to say, “Stop dying, Paul! **STOP DYING _NOW_!!!** ” Only after he would put a gun to Paul’s head, or promise him a full presidential pardon. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/56 "2005-05-03T16:50:18Z")
> [@annieclaus](#): > > Jack wasn’t trying to interrogate Paul. He wanted to interrogate the Chinese guy. So Jack had to play heart surgeon while the real surgeon patched up the Chinese guy. Unfortunately, Jack flunked de-fibrillation in med school and Paul bought the farm. We don’t know about the Chinese guy. Ah, thanks. That explains all the only-one-doctor? comments. Jack’s bedside manner is a lot like his interrogation technique. Which probably explains why his malpractice insurance rates are about to skyrocket. BTW, does Tony have perhaps the least understanding girlfriend evar? Even without knowing about the missing nuclear weapon, there’s been a terrorist caused trainwreck, abduction of the Secretary of Defense, and the President’s plane has been shot down. And she’s all, “What are you doing at CTU?” ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/57 "2005-05-03T17:00:16Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > BTW, does Tony have perhaps the least understanding girlfriend evar? Even without knowing about the missing nuclear weapon, there’s been a terrorist caused trainwreck, abduction of the Secretary of Defense, and the President’s plane has been shot down. And she’s all, “What are you doing at CTU?” In her defense, Tony doesn’t actually work there anymore. Neither does Jack. Or Palmer. And exactly what is Audrey, the Secretary of Defense’s personal assistant? Whatever she is, she can be carried out of the OR kicking and screaming whenever Jack says so. The entire government is suddenly in civilian control. They could’ve called OfficeTeam to do it. It’s like in 1950s sci-fi movies where a local scientist can declare martial law. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/58 "2005-05-03T17:17:15Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > Which probably explains why his malpractice insurance rates are about to skyrocket. Naw, he’ll just hold a gun to the underwriter’s head. ---
**Author:** ![shelbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@shelbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shelbo)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/59 "2005-05-03T17:21:59Z")
> [@YPOD](#): > > D) the People’s Republic is giving him sanctuary and denying the US access to him, thereby protecting the terrorists and making the attack more likely > > E) sheltering this nuclear nerd will be considered evidence of PRC’s support of the nuclear attack > > F) the US will respond appropriately My thoughts exactly! [quyote=YPOD] By the way, nice way for Jack to get rid of that pain in the ass ex-husband. How did he plan it that well? But it looks as if the girl friend will have a bug up her ass about it for a while. [/QUOTE] LOL! ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/60 "2005-05-03T17:39:10Z")
Paul is dead now? So, I guess Jack and Audrey can now date freely. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119.md?page=4)