# 24: Season 4: Episode 20 (2:00am - 3:00am)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 2, 2005, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119 "2005-05-02T20:04:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/101 "2005-05-07T05:29:43Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> This happens to be my first season of ‘24’ as well. Very… um… interesting? 😉 Personally, I like a show where most people make fun of how unrealistic it is. But maybe that’s just me :D.

Make sure you catch seasons 1 and 2.

And in season 2, take a drink every time Kim does something stupid. 😉

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/102 "2005-05-07T12:16:39Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> And in season 2, take a drink every time Kim does something stupid. 😉

And when he dies of alcohol poisioning, I hope you’ll be happy.

😃

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/103 "2005-05-07T13:36:33Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> And when he dies of alcohol poisioning, I hope you’ll be happy.
> 
> 😃

Yeah… um… just take away his car keys, first… 😉

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/104 "2005-05-07T13:38:04Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> Yeah… um… just take away his car keys, first… 😉

…or a million people will die!!!

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/105 "2005-05-07T14:05:42Z")

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Drop the car keys now!

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/106 "2005-05-08T08:54:58Z")

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:eek:

Yes sir!

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**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/107 "2005-05-08T15:49:42Z")

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Say what happened to the EMP device? The one that blacked out most of Downtown L.A.? Did the DWP guys come out and just turn everything back on.

I work in Downtown L.A. and I’m hoping that if one of these go off, I would be guaranteed a few days off.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/108 "2005-05-08T21:05:44Z")

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**BobT** – Yeah, I’ve been wondering about that, too. They seem to have an endless supply of LAPD wherever they need them (“Have LAPD tighten the perimeter – we have to keep Marwan from escaping… again…”), even though you’d think that a lot of the police force would still be tied up trying to restore order, stop looting, etc etc in the blackout zone. Which was rather large.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/109 "2005-05-10T22:39:55Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> **BobT** – Yeah, I’ve been wondering about that, too. They seem to have an endless supply of LAPD wherever they need them (“Have LAPD tighten the perimeter – we have to keep Marwan from escaping… again…”), even though you’d think that a lot of the police force would still be tied up trying to restore order, stop looting, etc etc in the blackout zone. Which was rather large.

On the other hand, they never seem to have enough available to have a few squad cars swing by Jack & Redshirt X’s latest raid…

Make up your minds, people…

OR MILLIONS WILL DIE!

-Joe, wanted his turn

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/110 "2005-05-11T00:59:14Z")

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Aw Christ. I just read a spoiler I wish I hadn’t.

Marwan gets away AGAIN for Christ’s sake! Jesus, this season sucks.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/111 "2005-05-11T01:55:38Z")

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[QUOTE=RikWriter]  
Aw Christ. I just read a spoiler I wish I hadn’t.

Kinda hard to run holding pressure points, isn’t it?

🙂

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/112 "2005-05-11T01:58:56Z")

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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]

> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Aw Christ. I just read a spoiler I wish I hadn’t.
> 
> Kinda hard to run holding pressure points, isn’t it?
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> 🙂

Worse. He is rescued before they leave the warehouse by MORE of his seemingly endless supply of henchmen, and taken to yet ANOTHER hideout. Christ, what is this fucker, Professor goddamned Moriarty?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/113 "2005-05-11T02:01:48Z")

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Despite all the problems with this year’s story, I would still rather watch 24 than any other one hour drama. After nearly 200 episodes of MST3K, I can appreciate bad scripts.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/114 "2005-05-11T02:07:48Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> Despite all the problems with this year’s story, I would still rather watch 24 than any other one hour drama.

I dunno, I think Deadwood and The Shield have that honor for me this season. I am almost ready to skip the last three hours of 24 at this point. I have a nasty feeling how the season is going to end and I don’t need to see yet another tragic ending to a season of 24. The first time, it was cool because it was rarely done. Now it’s becoming trite and cliched.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/115 "2005-05-11T02:10:07Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> I dunno, I think Deadwood and The Shield have that honor for me this season.

I tried to watch Deadwood, but just couldn’t get into it. I’m not much into Westerns. Ditto the Shield and cop shows.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/116 "2005-05-11T02:19:03Z")

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Whoa.  
Somebody define “Tragic Ending”.  
I’m expecting Truth and Justice to Triumph.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/117 "2005-05-11T02:21:13Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Whoa.  
> Somebody define “Tragic Ending”.  
> I’m expecting Truth and Justice to Triumph.

I’m expecting Tony and/or Michelle to die and Jack to turn himself into the Chinese government and say he did the kidnapping as a rogue operation with no higher authority involved. The spoilers are hinting towards just such an ending.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/118 "2005-05-11T02:23:34Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> I’m expecting Tony and/or Michelle to die and Jack to turn himself into the Chinese government and say he did the kidnapping as a rogue operation with no higher authority involved. The spoilers are hinting towards just such an ending.

If the spoiler I read is correct:

Soulpatch buys the farm.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/119 "2005-05-11T02:25:41Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> If the spoiler I read is correct:
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> Soulpatch buys the farm.

Yes, I am 100% sure THAT will happen. But I have heard talk that Michelle commits suicide because she let him die rather than give into the demands of Mandy, who was holding him hostage.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-20-2-00am-3-00am/302119/120 "2005-05-11T02:27:17Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Yes, I am 100% sure THAT will happen. But I have heard talk that Michelle commits suicide because she let him die rather than give into the demands of Mandy, who was holding him hostage.

Well, that’s gonna suck.

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