# 24: Season 4: Episode 21 (3:00am - 4:00am) - Unboxed Spoilers!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 9, 2005, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138 "2005-05-09T23:47:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/81 "2005-05-11T00:05:27Z")

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> [@SuperNelson](#):
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> This is 24, so it’s got to be headed to L.A.

No, I think they are correct about somewhere on the east coast being the target. Remember that in this one, Marwan told a henchman to bump up the launch (about an hour, I think), since they couldn’t block CTU satellite links or something. Henchman argued that if they did it earlier than planned, there wouldn’t be as many casualties, because people wouldn’t have made it to work, or some such thing.

The 3-4 AM time is west coast time. The rocket launch went off just at the end, right at 4 AM. (7 AM Eastern). If they bumped it up an hour, then the original plan would have been to launch it at 8 AM, as east coast people were arriving to work.

My vote’s on NYC.  
My second choice is Washington D.C.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/82 "2005-05-11T00:15:55Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> For those who like to read other people skewering **24** , I re-present [Dave Barry’s weblog](http://weblog.herald.com/column/davebarry/archives/cat_24.html).
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> We seem to be on the same page as Barry, but it still is an amusing read.

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> Acting President Manilow is still cowering in the White House bunker, changing his Depends every 15 minutes.

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> They’re trying to jam Chloe’s servers! Those bastards.

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> The Chinese guys are talking in some kind of Chinese code. Apparently they don’t realize that we can read the subtitles.

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> A half-hour gone and Jack has not shot anyone.

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> Finally! Violence.

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> It’s Dave’s fault I’ can’t not watch this show every week. It’s also his fault that I can’t take it even a little seriously.

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> you know, on west wing, the president has a LOT more advisors!

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> They should have altered the tape to make it look like Audrey raided the Chinese consulate.

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> Palmer: “You brought me here to help you…you called me…so don’t act surprised when I try to sell you some insurance!”

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> Let Chloe talk to the Chinese security guy. He’ll be running out of there in five minutes

😃😃😃

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> Wow, you can hook up faster at CTU than a nightclub on dollar beer night.

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> If I buy insurance from President Allstate, and my car gets stolen, will he get Jack Bauer to shoot the thieves in the thigh? I’ll pay extra for that.

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> Audrey works in friggin’ politics, and she’s not comfortable lying?!?

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> And yes, in case you are wondering, here in Atlanta we are still leading off the news with Runaway Bride stories.
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> Maybe I can get Jack to shoot me, too.

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> So a dumb look from Edgar confirmed the consul’s suspicions that the U.S. staged the attack? I guess we were doomed from the beginning.

😃😃😃

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> Urgent breaking news! Runaway Bride’s would-be father-in-law appears before the Duluth, GA, city council to say, “Thanks.”
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> Oh, the humanity. Next time, can I just have the sharp stick in the eye?

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**Author:** ![Greywolf73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@Greywolf73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greywolf73)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/83 "2005-05-11T00:53:14Z")

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Good grief, so is death the only way to get out of working at CTU? Audrey sure looked composed less than an hour after her husband’s death. Maybe that’s what the red shirts are actually doing. They just want a vacation from CTU. 😃

But hey, maybe death won’t even excuse anyone by next season. Zombie agents will soon be manning the computers and following Jack in the field. They’ve got to be running low on disposable red shirted agents by now.

I’m really curious as to how Jack is planning on stopping that missile. Perhaps flying a jet up alongside of it and yelling “Crash into an uninhabited area! CRASH INTO AN UNINHABITED AREA!!”

In related news, I’ve taken to using Jack’s strategic use of yelling in my day-to-day life. Me to Mr. Greywolf: “Please put your socks in the clothes hamper. PLEASE PUT YOUR SOCKS IN THE CLOTHES HAMPER!!” It doesn’t seem to work as well for me as it does for Jack though. Darn it.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/84 "2005-05-11T01:01:27Z")

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> [@Greywolf73](#):
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> In related news, I’ve taken to using Jack’s strategic use of yelling in my day-to-day life. Me to Mr. Greywolf: “Please put your socks in the clothes hamper. PLEASE PUT YOUR SOCKS IN THE CLOTHES HAMPER!!” It doesn’t seem to work as well for me as it does for Jack though. Darn it.

Yes, but do you pull out a big gun and point it at his head, first? 😉

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/85 "2005-05-11T01:02:27Z")

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> [@Evil One](#):
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> I want to see Jack torture the hell out of Marwan. Marwan has been smug for far too long. I wish to hear him scream like a schoolgirl.

Actually, I just read that Marwan, in what may be one of the worst moves the writers have made in what has been an absolutely awful season, escapes AGAIN.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/86 "2005-05-11T01:45:07Z")

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> [@Greywolf73](#):
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> In related news, I’ve taken to using Jack’s strategic use of yelling in my day-to-day life. Me to Mr. Greywolf: “Please put your socks in the clothes hamper. PLEASE PUT YOUR SOCKS IN THE CLOTHES HAMPER!!” It doesn’t seem to work as well for me as it does for Jack though. Darn it.

[Whisper]

Psst.

“…OR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!”

[/Whisper]

-Joe

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**Author:** ![JCorre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3da27b/32.png) [@JCorre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JCorre)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/87 "2005-05-11T04:14:43Z")

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I thought the Chinese Embassy security guy looked a lot like [this guy](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002245/) from the movie “The Ladykillers”. I didn’t see his “24” credit in his [imdb.com](http://imdb.com) page however so I could be wrong.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/88 "2005-05-11T04:28:32Z")

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> [@JCorre](#):
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> I thought the Chinese Embassy security guy looked a lot like [this guy](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002245/) from the movie “The Ladykillers”. I didn’t see his “24” credit in his [imdb.com](http://imdb.com) page however so I could be wrong.

Under the guest spot listings for 24, IMDB does not yet have the credit for the chinese security guy yet for this episode. So that would mean that it’s not cross-linked to the actor’s page yet (whoever the actor is. So you could be right).

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/89 "2005-05-11T05:06:08Z")

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> [@JCorre](#):
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> I thought the Chinese Embassy security guy looked a lot like [this guy](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002245/) from the movie “The Ladykillers”. I didn’t see his “24” credit in his [imdb.com](http://imdb.com) page however so I could be wrong.

Which movie, by the way, is hysterical.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/90 "2005-05-11T17:16:07Z")

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Shit. I gotta tell you guys, if the season plays out the way it’s beginning to look as if it will, I won’t be watching next season.  
Spoilers keep pointing to the season ending with Tony dead and Jack a prisoner of the Chinese.   
I’m sure Surnow thinks that will all be very dramatic and everything, but for me it would be the final straw.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/91 "2005-05-11T17:52:37Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> If I were Jack, I’f cut down the handles of a pair of bolt cutters to fit in my hip pocket.  
> Just the things for fingers and toes on the spur of the moment.  
> Three joints on ten fingers and toes is thirty chances for Marwan to talk. …🙂

I only have two joints on my thumbs and big toes, does this mean I am a mutant?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/92 "2005-05-11T18:21:20Z")

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Oooh, thanks for noticing. :smack:

Jack can cut another inside the palm and foot, but I notice we gain sixteen more that way!  
Thanks again. You are a credit to your country and Finding Things Out the Jack Bauer Way.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![shelbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@shelbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shelbo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/93 "2005-05-11T22:44:07Z")

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[note to self]

Stop reading **RikWriter’s** spoliers!

\*\*STOP READING RIKWRITER’S SPOLERS!!

OR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE!!\*\*

[/note to self]

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**Author:** ![Bob55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Bob55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob55)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/94 "2005-05-11T23:37:00Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> Half the fun this season is coming here to pick the episodes apart. My nit-to-pick this week; I see the Chinese have that magical “image enhancing technology” we frequently see on other police and spy dramas. At least the image it created on 24 tonight was not terribly unrealistic.

I saw that coming and said to my wife “watch this, they’re going to pull some BS image sharpening crap to increase its resolution, it doesn’t work”. But what they actually did seemed more plausable, they used filters instead which you can do to any image to somewhat improve it (though not that drastically generally).

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-21-3-00am-4-00am-unboxed-spoilers/303138/95 "2005-05-12T00:46:40Z")

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> [@Bob55](#):
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> I saw that coming and said to my wife “watch this, they’re going to pull some BS image sharpening crap to increase its resolution, it doesn’t work”. But what they actually did seemed more plausable, they used filters instead which you can do to any image to somewhat improve it (though not that drastically generally).

As someone who spends nearly half of his professional time on video surveillance…words can not describe how much this stuff pisses me off.

“No, sir, I’m sorry, but while your $250 camera can see the entire parking lot, no, you’re not going to be able to zoom in on the face of the guy 300 feet away and count the moles on his face. If you’re lucky, at that distance you might be able to figure out if they’re black or white.”

-Joe

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