# 24: Season 4: Episode 6 (12:00pm - 1:00pm) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 25, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523 "2005-01-25T02:37:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/41 "2005-01-25T09:19:15Z")
I liked that the cut-to-commercial composite/clock shot showed both Terror Kid and Anarchist Boy saying “No! No!” in unison. “My daddy turned me over to a murderous hatchet-man!” “My daddy turned me over to psy-ops interrogation spooks!” They have _got_ to be best friends by the end of the day. 😃 So where do you think Audrey recognizes The Third caucasian Man from? Seen with her husband in a business context? Seen with her dad in an official context? Seen with baby bro in a dreadlock-wigged and patchouli-scented disguise context? The raid scene was totally fantastic. It made me suddenly want a properly developed _24_ 1st person shooter. I missed Chloe in this episode. _I missed Chloe in this episode._ I hope Jack re-enlists her on the sly soon. I’d like to see her hooked up with Terror Kid in the field, working together to figure out what’s going on, in contact with Jack by cell – I think they’d have good chemistry together. Hee hee hee. At first I thought that the creating-extra-loads-on-the-internet plot was totally stupid – and then I remembered how peppy the internet was on September 11th, 2001. So it’s not _totally_ stupid. (I guess it makes a _little_ sense if the NRC’s high-security servers are colocated with [CNN.com](http://CNN.com).) Okay, okay, I’ll be alright if I can invoke the shade of John Roebling to help with my suspension of disbelief. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/42 "2005-01-25T09:41:26Z")
> [@Dewey Cheatem Undhow](#): > > I just want to say that it’s possible the Secretary of Defense on this show is an even bigger badass than Jack Bauer. > > That is all. yet unlike Jack, he’s (a) thoroughly unlikeable and (b) bears a startling resemblance to the head of the undercover agency in Monsters Inc. ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/43 "2005-01-25T13:28:11Z")
Ooh look, Aisha Taylor’s a _spy!_, like we didn’t see that coming the first time she showed up… TerrorKid is a dork who should have taken the shovel and gun, but it was nice that his girlfriend’s intended final resting place had a great view of the L.A. valley. And as for the universal nuclear remote: good god that’s a fucked-up idea. Hello? McFly? Anybody home? Make a device that can shut down every nuclear power plant in the country, and then make the unescorted courier take _Amtrak!_ People is dumb… ---
**Author:** ![AndyPolley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndyPolley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyPolley)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/44 "2005-01-25T14:08:58Z")
(Enters thread with eyes closed tight…) Ummm…My VCR held some sort of protest against me & decided not to work last night. Anyone feel like sending a tape of the show to the guy who, up untill now, hasn’t missed an episode in 3+ seasons? If so, you can contact me with the E-Mail address in my profile. Thank you for your time. (Covers ears & runs out of thread) ---
**Author:** ![archmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@archmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/archmichael)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/45 "2005-01-25T15:24:07Z")
> [@Stuffy](#): > > Way to go Moron: > > Leave Big Terrorist Badass out in the open next to an open grave with the body of someone reported missing. I was wondering why they took out the body before the hole was dug. Have we not learned anything from watching **Casino**? ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/46 "2005-01-25T15:45:34Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Just in case anybody is interested, according to the IMDB… > > Former President David Palmer will be in future episodes, towards the end of the season Oh, goodie! I was hoping this would happen. ---
**Author:** ![av8rmike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@av8rmike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/av8rmike)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/47 "2005-01-25T15:57:32Z")
Can I just chime in at this point to say there are WAAAY too many nicknames to follow these threads anymore? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/48 "2005-01-25T16:02:09Z")
So is the ‘minor’ leak being reported at a Michigan nuclear plant just a coincidence? ---
**Author:** ![Kaspar\_Hauser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b3f665/32.png) [@Kaspar\_Hauser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaspar_Hauser)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/49 "2005-01-25T16:09:46Z")
I forgot to watch! Waaaahhhh! ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/50 "2005-01-25T16:13:28Z")
The remote control nuclear plant control device made me say out loud “colon-rolleyes-colon”. What a ridiculous plot device. but Jack does kick ass. ---
**Author:** ![Winston\_Bongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@Winston\_Bongo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Bongo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/51 "2005-01-25T17:17:40Z")
Jack: “And what exactly was in that briefcase?” Military-Industrial Complex Guy: “Oh, just a little thingy that allows the user to remotely control every single nuclear facility in the country, that’s all.” Jack: "_WHAT???"_ MICG: “Oh, don’t worry! It can’t be used for evil purposes.” Jack: “Are you sure?” MICG: “Pretty sure.” Jack: “What do you mean _pretty sure_?” MICG: “Well, I guess technically it’s POSSIBLE that someone could use it to cause hundreds of simultaneous meltdowns thus resulting in Doomsday. But that’s highly unlikely, because we have a firewall.” Jack: “Could anyone get past the firewall?” MICG: “Naaaaah!” Jack: “Are you sure?” MICG: “Pretty sure.” Jack: _“WHAT??”_ MICG: “Well, unless they tried to, like, distract us all by putting something on the Internet, like another Paris Hilton sex tape or the attempted execution of the Secretary of Defense. In which case we’d have to kiss civilization goodbye, but that’s highly un–” Jack: (Kicks over table and starts taking hostages) ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/52 "2005-01-25T18:27:19Z")
> [@av8rmike](#): > > Can I just chime in at this point to say there are WAAAY too many nicknames to follow these threads anymore? So far we have the Terror Family, with Terror Dad, Terror Mom and Terror Kid. The Black lady at CTU is Mini-Sherry Though I personally called her Ms Manipulative the Sec Def’s Son is Anarchy Boy The Sec Defs Daughter is “Soon to be Doomed” Anybody dumb enough to fall for Jack Bauer eventually bites it. ---
**Author:** ![Survey1215](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Survey1215](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Survey1215)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/53 "2005-01-25T19:34:15Z")
Great episode. Did Beruuz (sp?) pick up the pistol after he whacked his would-be executioner? It looked like he left it there. Dumb ass. You would think that all cell calls out of CTU would be monitored - could they even use cellys inside of the building last year? And whoever said there should be a more complete vetting process is absolutely right - ‘you work in this field? Sure, come on in!’ I remain convinced that the SecDef’s son doesn’t know dick and that it was Audrey (or, as her husband says, ‘Auuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudrey’, this season’s answer to Claaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw-dia) who told someone, b/c she’s a baddie. The ‘mole’ from the end of the episode made me think of Gael - we’re _supposed_ to think she’s a bad guy, but I’m betting she works for another gov’t agency (i suppose that technically means she could still be a badguy) and is on ‘our’ side. Writers are trying to trick us. ---
**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/54 "2005-01-25T20:05:10Z")
> [@Barbarian](#): > > And as for the universal nuclear remote: good god that’s a fucked-up idea. Hello? McFly? Anybody home? Make a device that can shut down every nuclear power plant in the country, and then make the unescorted courier take _Amtrak!_ People is dumb… Nitpick: he wasn’t unescorted. The first episode clearly showed a guy packing heat sitting a few rows behind the courier. The escort presumably died in the train crash. But yeah, people is dumb. You’d think the big bad defense contractor could afford an actual secure courier service. You know, an armored car or a private jet or something. Or at least a receptionist smart enough to look at the news and say “Hey, didn’t we have a courier transporting potentially dangerous and highly classified technology on that train? Maybe we should tell someone about that.” ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/55 "2005-01-25T20:11:50Z")
Thanks, **DCU** , for posting this thread… I wasn’t near a computer all day, and had forgotten anyway. More thoughts from my corner of the peanut gallery later… ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/56 "2005-01-25T20:23:05Z")
Still, it was Amtrak, which pretty much anyone in Homeland Security would tell you is about the most vulnerable form of transportation to a terrorist attack. Amtrak! The train that gets the least amount of priority at any crossing. “Hey, we’ve got a valuable object here. But we’ve got to wait for a 100-car long train full of auto parts to go past first.” ---
**Author:** ![Selkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Selkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Selkie)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/57 "2005-01-25T20:35:12Z")
> [@Survey1215](#): > > The ‘mole’ from the end of the episode made me think of Gael - we’re _supposed_ to think she’s a bad guy, but I’m betting she works for another gov’t agency (i suppose that technically means she could still be a badguy) and is on ‘our’ side. Writers are trying to trick us. I agree. I think she works for the DoD, and is (not unreasonably, given the history of CTU) “keeping an eye on” the situation rather than relying on official channels. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/58 "2005-01-25T20:39:55Z")
This was a pretty good episode. I knew the Beav was going to wise up sooner or later. He really needs to hook up with older brother, Wahlid, to help him out of this jam. It’s pretty clear that TerrorFahdur was the decision maker in taking the kid out, although they don’t come out and say it. My guess is that the Beav somehow hooks up with TerrorMom and they end up helping CTU. I gotta agree that the high tech nuclear shut-down device is absurd. Even if we suspend belief and agree that a such a device might exist, surely there would be a different device for each plant. Instead, we get the Ultimate Universal Remote! ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/59 "2005-01-25T20:44:33Z")
I really enjoyed the episode, but is the plot really going to be that the terrorists are going to take control of the nuclear reactors over the web? Nuclear Technician: Hello? Jack: This is Jack Bauer at CTU. You need to unplug your ethernet connection. NT: What? Why? I want to keep watching this TerrorTrial streaming video! Jack: UNPLUG THE CABLE! The terrorists are hacking your system! NT: Relax, guy, I have WinXP SP2. It has a built-in firewall, you can’t hack that. Jack: Pull the cable or I’ll come cut it with my hacksaw! ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523/60 "2005-01-25T21:02:56Z")
> [@Survey1215](#): > > I remain convinced that the SecDef’s son doesn’t know dick and that it was Audrey (or, as her husband says, ‘Auuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudrey’, this season’s answer to Claaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw-dia) who told someone, b/c she’s a baddie. But they said numerous times that the plygraph shjowed he was lying, or at least holding something back, when they asked him if he told anyone his dad was stopping by. And polygraphs are actually very accurate, especiallly on someone like the Sec Def son, who is very nervous and clearly doesn’t know a thing about trying to fool one (and besides, you fool it into thinking you aren’t lying.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-6-12-00pm-1-00pm/286523.md?page=4)