# 24: Season 4: Episode 7 (1:00pm - 2:00pm) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 31, 2005, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678 "2005-01-31T22:26:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![recurriman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8dc957/32.png) [@recurriman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/recurriman)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/81 "2005-02-02T11:03:21Z")
I just want to know why CTU must be compromised every 3 weeks. I’d also like to know what the point of the 2 boring sidestories I have to skip over now. Mom/crazy daughter and hubbie/“cheating” wife. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/82 "2005-02-02T12:38:50Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > People have really got to let the computer lingo go… the number of people who understand it and know the difference is minimal, so you focus on other things when you’re trying to produce a weekly TV series. Well, if you know anything at all about computers, the babble jars you right out of your suspension of disbelief because it’s all so hilariously wrong. Think about how someone who knew about guns would react if Jack were loading clips into what was obviously a revolver or if he started using a Star Trek phaser on the bad guys. The computer jargon is \* that \* awful. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/83 "2005-02-02T14:44:38Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Speaking of which… I thought they were determined to do whatever was necessary to get the info out of him. He still never gave up the goods, who he told about Daddy visiting him. So then less than an hour later, they just decide to quit and send him on his way? Eh, I think they cut out the part where they talk about bugging his cell phone and having him followed. Sad Little Hippie Son: Dave, guess what! The feds were just asking me about you! They tortured me and everything! Dave: What? So you called me? SLHS: It really sucked. Total downer. I hate my dad. Dave: Dave’s not home, man. Prank caller! Prank caller! (click) The good guys on 24 do stupid stuff sometimes, but they’re not THAT stupid. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/84 "2005-02-02T14:57:01Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Hang on, haven’t there only been a total of 3 so far, counting Maryanne (or whatever her name is) right now? > > There were two in season one, but none (that I recall) in seasons two or three. Remember, Gael was NOT a mole. Though CTU was sorta blown up last year. ---
**Author:** ![kath94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@kath94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kath94)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/85 "2005-02-02T16:03:18Z")
I kind of get the gist of this week’s show from reading this thread, but can somebody post (in a spoiler box, if necessary) a summary of this episode? Hubby’s in charge of recording, and he hasn’t quite got the hang of it yet. He’s a computer geek techie, so of course he can’t read the instruction manual, and when things go wrong (like NOT recording an episode of one of our favorite shows!) it must be the machine’s fault. Help! Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/86 "2005-02-02T16:21:48Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Speaking of which… I thought they were determined to do whatever was necessary to get the info out of him. He still never gave up the goods, who he told about Daddy visiting him. So then less than an hour later, they just decide to quit and send him on his way? This part confused me a little - in the previous ep, Heller gave them leave to ‘do whatever is necessary’ to get info out of him. They had had him (what I thought was) briefly in sensory deprivation before that. This episode Heller is all pissy about ‘3 hours’ worth of ‘torture’ on his kid? I never had the impression it was for very long during any of the sessions. Was that cumulative for the day? Slip of the tongue that got past the continuity folks? ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/87 "2005-02-02T16:32:37Z")
> [@recurriman](#): > > I just want to know why CTU must be compromised every 3 weeks. Every three _hours_, dude. If you get my drift. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/88 "2005-02-02T17:27:40Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > Man, does everyone come through Law and Order? Tonight’s repeat of L&A:SVU not only has TerrorDad but Shannon from Lost. It’s my theory that everyone on television has either appeared on _L&O_ or was one of Jerry’s girlfriends on _Seinfeld_. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/89 "2005-02-02T17:51:23Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > The one thing that seemed odd this episode was just letting SecDef’s son go, particularly after showing him in the opening “previously on”, as if he had continued importance. I wonder if he’ll be back? I have no doubt he’ll be back. I can’t believe the writers would let this storyline drop so anticlimactically. But it may not be for many hours. Ed ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/90 "2005-02-02T17:56:20Z")
> [@recurriman](#): > > I just want to know why CTU must be compromised every 3 weeks. > I’d also like to know what the point of the 2 boring sidestories I have to skip over now. Mom/crazy daughter and hubbie/“cheating” wife. I find the hubbie/“cheating” wife story boring, but I find myself strangely drawn to the daughter story, or more especially to Driscoll’s reaction to her. It makes her seem more like a real person. I thought the scene where she was worried about her daughter’s unconsciousness while simultaneously trying to answer Sarah’s questions was particularly interesting. Ed ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/91 "2005-02-02T17:59:01Z")
> [@kath94](#): > > I kind of get the gist of this week’s show from reading this thread, but can somebody post (in a spoiler box, if necessary) a summary of this episode? Hubby’s in charge of recording, and he hasn’t quite got the hang of it yet. He’s a computer geek techie, so of course he can’t read the instruction manual, and when things go wrong (like NOT recording an episode of one of our favorite shows!) it must be the machine’s fault. > > Help! Anyone? For a very detailed summary of every episode that has aired, go to Fox’s web site: > **[24 | Watch Full Episodes Online on FOX](https://www.fox.com/24/)** > > 24 TV Series - Check out the latest news, scheduling and show information. Click on “episode guide”. Ed ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/92 "2005-02-03T04:24:02Z")
I went to see SPAMALOT while it was in Chicago. The actor who plays Sir Galahad actually included this line in his bio: Have never appeared on LAW & ORDER. I thought that was a hoot! ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/93 "2005-02-03T04:45:01Z")
> [@Katriona](#): > > This part confused me a little - in the previous ep, Heller gave them leave to ‘do whatever is necessary’ to get info out of him. They had had him (what I thought was) briefly in sensory deprivation before that. > > This episode Heller is all pissy about ‘3 hours’ worth of ‘torture’ on his kid? I never had the impression it was for very long during any of the sessions. Was that cumulative for the day? Slip of the tongue that got past the continuity folks? That sounded odd to me, too – but I figured he was talking about the total time (not the time since Heller personally ordered him back into the Darth Vader helmet, although that’s what he made his comment sound like). And the total time **was** a bit more. I don’t know if it was 3 hours, but there was one full hour that we didn’t see Richard at all, and I assume he was tripping in blind-squeaky-noise-land for the whole time. > [@](#): > > from _recurriman_ > I’d also like to know what the point of the 2 boring sidestories I have to skip over now. Mom/crazy daughter and hubbie/“cheating” wife. I think the hubbie/cheating wife bit is really more to set up character development on Jack. If so, I’m fine with it. Remember, the reason Jack and Kate didn’t work out (according to him in season 3) was that he couldn’t reconcile the job with an outside relationship. Primarily because of Terry’s death in season 1. He doesn’t feel that he can or should have a relationship while doing that job, because it’s too likely to put his loved one at risk. That theme came out in the fact that he got Kim the CTU job (to keep her close to him), and again when he found out about Chase and Kim. He didn’t want Chase to date his daughter AND be a CTU field agent. One or the other. Now that Jack is no longer working in that dangerous job (until today, of course), it appears that he feels like he can let himself actually have a relationship again, and try to have a “normal life”. He’s just starting to let this happen. Of course, the wrenches just got thrown into the works. (1) Dangerous situation ensues, threatening not just his life but his babe’s life, too. (2) Babe’s estranged hubby wants to work things out, and maybe she’s having thoughts about this? Looks like they are setting up not only her conflict (Jack? or work it out with hubby?), but one for him, too. He’s back on the “job”, so should he bow out gracefully, give up the “normal life” that he’s hoped for, and sent her back to hubby? Or does he fight to keep her and try to have his normal relationship, and truly move past Terry’s death. Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe it’s just leading to a smack-down fight between Jack and AccentBoy. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kath94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@kath94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kath94)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/94 "2005-02-05T23:34:26Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > For a very detailed summary of every episode that has aired, go to Fox’s web site: > > [http://www.fox.com/24](http://www.fox.com/24) > > Click on “episode guide”. > > Ed Thanks very much, **suranyi.** ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/95 "2005-02-06T12:16:46Z")
I only watched this episode late, but a couple things irritated me. First off, I hope Jack Bauer is never around if I get shot, because instead of offering medical treatment he’ll loot my body. And second, where the hell can I get a flash card with that much storage? And a computer with a USB 24 port? ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/96 "2005-02-07T02:31:13Z")
> [@Barbarian](#): > > I only watched this episode late, but a couple things irritated me. > > First off, I hope Jack Bauer is never around if I get shot, because instead of offering medical treatment he’ll loot my body. And second, where the hell can I get a flash card with that much storage? And a computer with a USB 24 port? 1. Bauer did give the man CPR, but it was too late. You can hear him pumping the man’s heart while Audrey is looking at the monitors. Admittedly, he did it only after he had copied the relevant frames onto the memory stick, but it’s SOP that the mission is more important than the lives of the people he’s with. If that’s a problem for you, then you have a problem with “24”, because that’s been obvious since the show first aired. 2. I don’t understand what you mean by “that much storage”. All he did was copy five or six frames onto the memory stick. That doesn’t take that much memory. I’ve done similar things on my home computer. Ed ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/97 "2005-02-07T03:30:23Z")
BTW, anybody else been getting a little bit of a Laurence Fishburne vibe from Curtis? (mixed with something else – not decided on what, yet). ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678/98 "2005-02-07T13:24:45Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > 1. Bauer did give the man CPR, but it was too late. You can hear him pumping the man’s heart while Audrey is looking at the monitors. Admittedly, he did it only after he had copied the relevant frames onto the memory stick, but it’s SOP that the mission is more important than the lives of the people he’s with. If that’s a problem for you, then you have a problem with “24”, because that’s been obvious since the show first aired. > > 2. I don’t understand what you mean by “that much storage”. All he did was copy five or six frames onto the memory stick. That doesn’t take that much memory. I’ve done similar things on my home computer. > > Ed Sarcasm… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-7-1-00pm-2-00pm/287678.md?page=4)