# 24: Season 4: Episode 8 (2:00pm - 3:00pm) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 7, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/288900 "2005-02-07T23:46:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/288900/81 "2005-02-09T15:46:19Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > What were they injecting into Sarah? I was thinking truth serum, but why not just use that first instead of electro-shock treatment? Well, might have been that stuff they were threatening to use on Richard earlier – the one that makes all your nerve endings feel like they are on fire. Although I kept wondering… “Maybe you ought to start with the simple polygraph first?” :::sigh::: What ever happened to the plain simple good ol’ days of feet in a bucket of water and a defibrillator, a la Season 2. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2005, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/288900/82 "2005-02-09T15:59:42Z")
> [@BobT](#): > > I had a sinking feeling that the Secret Service agents who were going to pick up Audrey were rogue agents or were going to get hijacked on the way back. But they weren’t. That’s very un-24 of them. I was sort of thinking that, too, except when they finally showed up they looked too “official” to be bad guys. But, it would be very un-24 if Audrey did \*\*not \*\*get kdnapped again at some point in the season. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2005, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/288900/83 "2005-02-09T17:27:20Z")
> [@BobT](#): > > I had a sinking feeling that the Secret Service agents who were going to pick up Audrey were rogue agents or were going to get hijacked on the way back. But they weren’t. That’s very un-24 of them. But it’s very 24-like to keep us guessing as to when bad things like kidnappings will happen, and the way to do that is to not have that happen at every obvious opportunity. Ed ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/288900/84 "2005-02-09T17:33:57Z")
Audrey has 16 more hours in the day to be kindapped, shot, beaten up, etc. She’s Jack Bauer’s love interest. Forget it. She’s a goner. She’s got no chance. If it’s not TerrorDad who kills her, it will be her Aussie husband. Or maybe Driscoll’s daughter will do it. Jack Bauer has about as much luck with women as the Cartwright family. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/288900/85 "2005-02-09T17:47:14Z")
> [@BobT](#): > > Jack Bauer has about as much luck with women as the Cartwright family. Man, that’s cold. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Broken\_Wind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Broken\_Wind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broken_Wind)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2005, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/288900/86 "2005-02-09T19:38:06Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > Tony still has a Cubs mug. Awesome 😃 > [@jweb](#): > > Tony: Cub fan, Bud Man. Shouldn’t he be drinking an _Old Style_ out of his Cubs mug? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Survey1215](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Survey1215](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Survey1215)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2005, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/288900/87 "2005-02-09T19:50:05Z")
> [@c\_goat](#): > > He also had a little “accident” with Nina Meyers in Season 3. Probably why he doesn’t inject into the neck anymore (hmm, maybe I should use a part of the body that is strapped down and can’t move). The guy is definitely incompetent. Wasn’t that a different character? I thought Nina killed the Season Three Torture Guy. Do you think CTU should have maybe trailed the DOD’s kid when he left their place last week, since he inferred he knew something? Hopefully his phone is tapped, as anyone that dumb would surely do something to help them out. You-Know-Who is back for the final seven episodes - what is that, nine weeks away? Any guesses on his story? ---
**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/288900/88 "2005-02-09T20:01:59Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I’m pretty sure that doesn’t apply when terrorism is involved. There is a definite national security threat, and they’re also living in a world where terrorist attacks on America are a regular fact of life - as far as I remember, there’s been a plane blown up, an attempt on the life of the President that barely failed, hundreds killed by bioterrorism in the hotel, and tens of thousands at risk ‘today.’ In our world I’m not sure about the legality of that kind of torture when there is a real terrorist threat; in _24_’s world it disturbs me but I’m not sure it’s illegal. Oh, justified in the specific instance of this episode, sure. Legal, almost certainly not. Dewey: Thanks for the clarification. I change my objection to 8th and 14th amendment grounds. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2005, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/288900/89 "2005-02-09T20:04:21Z")
> [@Broken Wind](#): > > Shouldn’t he be drinking an _Old Style_ out of his Cubs mug? 😃 I don’t think they let that out of the Midwest. ---
**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2005, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/288900/90 "2005-02-09T20:45:15Z")
> [@Survey1215](#): > > Wasn’t that a different character? I thought Nina killed the Season Three Torture Guy. She was in the CTU clinic after the needle incident, and she definitely killed the doctors/nurses in there. I don’t think torture guy was there. I just assumed it was the same guy this season. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/288900/91 "2005-02-10T00:34:53Z")
> [@Survey1215](#): > > You-Know-Who is back for the final seven episodes - what is that, nine weeks away? Any guesses on his story? Shouldn’t this be in a spoiler box? I’m excited about any Palmer development, but I don’t think it’s common knowledge yet [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/288900.md?page=4)